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| chickenstrip wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
What's your point? |
My point was:
| chickenstrip wrote: | Tbh, I think we could do without crackpot political hysteria in every thread. |
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What do you think the OP meant in this?
| MCN wrote: | Terrorist Weather?
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I didn't see you whining about that. It's not hysteria, it's the sad demise of this country and how we feel the need to pander to an ideology who's aim in to convert the country into a Muslim one. When we even name the first storm of the year as a Muslim name, it shows have far we've given in.
This isn't hysteria, it's fact. It's what their ideology instructs them to do. It's what Saudi are trying to do with their massive Mosque building program all across Europe, which only preach the extreme intolerant Wahabbi type of Islam.
If you're OK with that, fill your boots, but don't have a dig at those who aren't happy with it.
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What do you think the OP meant in this?
| MCN wrote: | Terrorist Weather?
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Then I should probably give the OP a "  Off Topic", for posting in the wrong forum.
Which is still better than you, apparently posting on the wrong planet.
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| Posted: 12:29 - 20 Sep 2018 Post subject: |
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| chickenstrip wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
What do you think the OP meant in this?
| MCN wrote: | Terrorist Weather?
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Then I should probably give the OP a " Off Topic", for posting in the wrong forum.
Which is still better than you, apparently posting on the wrong planet. |
Great, then point out which part of what I said isn't the truth.
I know the truth often doesn't suit your agenda, but you could try counter arguing.
Maybe you could interpret this part of their instruction manual, into something cuddly, fluffy and not in the least bit like it means?
| Quote: | Quran (8:38-39) - “Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven... And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.” Translation from the Noble Quran
Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last major chapters that Muhammad narrated - hence abrogating what came before, including the oft-quoted verse 2:256 -"There is no compulsion in religion...".
Quran (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..." This is one of the verses that abrogates 2:256, since prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat (see below). Some say that the textual context limits the application of this verse to non-Muslims in Arabia at the time of narration. While there is some merit to this, it does not change the fact that the Quran is sanctioning violence as a means of coercing religion.
Quran (9:11) - (Continued from above) "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion"In conjunction with the preceding passage, this confirms that Muhammad is speaking of conversion to Islam. Quran (9:56-57) - "And they swear by Allah that they are most surely of you, and they are not of you, but they are a people who are afraid (of you). If they could find a refuge or cave or a place to enter into, they would certainly have turned thereto, running away in all haste." This refers to people living with the Muslim tribe who may not be true believers, but must pretend to be in order to survive. They have no safe refuge to escape the Muslims. If Islam were a religion of peace, then why the fear?
Quran (2:193) - "And fight them until fitna is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers." The key phrase here is to fight until "religion be only for Allah."
Qur'an (3:83) - "Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?" But didn't the earlier verse (2:256) state that there is "no compulsion in religion"? This contradiction is resolved by abrogation - where the later verse supersedes the earlier one. |
That basically says that Muslims are told to fight unbelievers until they are either dead, converted to Islam, or under Muslim domination. Allowing people of other faiths to live and worship independently of Islamic rule is not an option.
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| mpd72 CPT wrote: | you could try counter arguing. |
My mum taught me not to argue with paranoid lunatics. It only encourages them.
Back on topic (since you will note the OP reported his blown-over trailer), did you or your property suffer any storm damage?
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I try not to. It drains my energy, which I needed to move the blown down garden gate to somewhere I won't trip over it 
I have to admit though, if these ISIS/muslim/EU/Theresa May lot get any more effective with their dastardly plots, I might have to resort to stronger hinges! 
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