Quick learner bike question - CG125 replacement?

[kgm]

I agree with not tuning a CG. Total and utter waste of time and money. Sounds like you have plenty other tuning projects to satisfy that urge anyway.

Carb Vs FI wouldn't even feature in my decision. FI is likely more reliable and will give better fuel economy, carb will be cheaper and easier to fix if it goes wrong. Its unlikely FI will break but a poorly set up carb can cause plenty problems. I say that as someone who has 2 carved bikes and one FI (one of which is a CG).


CGs are good wee bikes, cheap as chips to own and run but there are plenty dogs around. Mine has 30k and has been pretty reliable. It does need tweaking occasionally though.

[stevo as b4]

The truth reveals itself. Ok so OP is mechanically curious, likes a tinker and has a notion that riding a bike on the right day could be fun. The 125 is probably because of lack of need as well as lack of budget.

I'd have to agree with the Teffing you got, and wait until the spring weather is here and you find enough time and cash burning a hole to get yourself along to a CBT course. Nothing more than that, no buying gear or projects or looking for a carbed 125 until you've got a pass cert in your hand.

It sounds like you've got more than enough projects on the go, and a great way to bleed away cash into a hole (car project/non std engine re-build). That project alone will use up your spare time and cash and it'll have teething problems and unforseen expense when done or things that'll break and need replacing modifying or strengthening etc.

Im seeing my own similarities here, and three projects, a house/garden and work, excersise and social life uses up all the time I have and more. I actually sometimes yearn for a new std bike to ride and take to a dealer for servicing. I do mountain biking and I don't even service my mtb myself as im too busy to have bikes in bits in the house etc.

I see your modern style averse too, and the CG is a semi classic design that is visually and simplistically appealing to you.

But you like many absolutely don't need a motorbike in your life to get you places, to earn a living or allow you to get out where theres no other way of getting around.

Therefore if and when you've done CBT next year and hopefully got your 4wheel money pit to a more complete but never finished state, and if CBT makes you want to ride a bike and not give up, it's 50/50 for many people who think they want a bike by the way. Then if your still classic bike and 125 eager to proceed then you can look for a used running bike in the style you like and do these little bits and bobs to depending on if yoif it's the riding that interests you more than the tinkering.

I'd possibly forget being transfixed on any make and model, and look for a classic style bike you like that's running well enough to use but could be tided up over time.
Seeing as you have no need for a bike and arnt going to get all whipped up about mpg and fuel tank sizes etc, then a classic 100-125 two stroke roadster would be just as good as a CG.

Not that you can make it necessarily better or faster for pennies, but it's a simpler job to fix or re-build an engine and old strokers reward being carefully fettled and have everything set up exactly as it should be in the manual.

Just adding some alternatives and a wider net to cast compared to trying to hunt down a CG in the spec and style you want.

[Northern Monkey]

get yourself a grom/Msx125 then you can piss around til the end of time adding alloy tat and custom widgets that can persuade yourself is making it loads faster. (But make fuck all difference)
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[Teflon-Mike]

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https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_xl125v_veradero%2011.htm

One of these maybe? not a small looking bike for a 125 and definatelt not cheap compared to the cg, cbf, ybr etc,

I would imagine they are of better build quality than the made in chine ybr,

lexmoto do a fair few old model ybr based bikes the aspire 125 is basically a ybr updated with disc brakes and stuff.

They even have one with an mp3 player and speakers built into the tank shrouds.

Supposedly the varadero is good for 70mph 15bhp according to the specs, the engine is shared with the 125 shadow i think.

By the looks of it shares some heritage with the vt vtr250 range so maybe an upgrade path if you are up for a bit of work for 30-35ish bhp.

[johnsmith222]

[ThatDippyTwat]

If you're anything over average height, get the YBR -
You can take surprising liberties in corners with decent rubber (Avon Streetrunners) because you won't be dusting anything on the straights. Parts are readily available - they were made for a decade. I replaced an '11 FI motor (previous owner didn't know what oil was - big end died) with an 07 carb. Used the throttle bodies and kept the FI, zero issues, totally interchangeable,
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[struan80]

Not enough cruisers about, buy a Shadow VT 125. The rest are boring with exception of the msx.

[Teflon-Mike]

[bacon]

Reading this thread has left me a bit annoyed tbh.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I get the feeling you don't really want a bike, you just want something to fit in with the guys at work with minimal effort.

If you actually wanted a bike you would do the CBT in November, weather doesn't matter, it's just a day of training. If you like it then don't waste time/effort/money on a 125 tiddler. Just do the DAS. Tuning a 125 is pointless.

A 500cc commuter like a cb500/gpz500 etc will piss all over a cg125 in any state of tune and cost bugger all.

[m1tch]

[Ste]

Tuning a CG125 by doing stuff like breathing mods for the airbox is the quickest way to devalue the bike and to make it go slower.

If you want to go faster, your best bet would be to buy a faster bike than a CG125.

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[Fizzoid]

Depends on the hill
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[m1tch]

Looking at the availability of my local training centre vs when I am free it would be late November/December when I can book in. I know at some point I will get wet, wet is ok its more about the ice on the road I am more concerned about.

I am also not really get any encouraging replies to anything I post to go and sort the CBT, seems that I apparently only want to get into biking because of someone at work, I don't have the finances to get a bike, the 125cc learner bikes I am looking at are apparently no good and I need to go straight to a DAS etc.

[Baffler186]

You are over thinking it I feel. Gear doesn't have to be expensive = £220 will get you new gear of a reasonable quality that will last a couple years.

Do your full A license, unless you absolutely can't afford it. The bike and insurance will be very similar to that on a 125 IME.

Then you have the choice of many different bikes. You can get an older carbed bike if that's your thing. Or if you like spannering, get a 600 with a sound engine and gearbox, do the thing up, then you have ticked all your boxes. AND you won't be limited to 60mph with L plates.
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