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PostPosted: 10:02 - 01 Oct 2018    Post subject: Lonely Teenagers Reply with quote

So the Government (probably at great expense ) have come to the conclusion that teenagers aged between 16 and 24 are lonely and isolated. FFS is this not the generation locked in their bedrooms with Sega's and X boxes and the like, no face to face meeting other humans when texting will do.

Payback time..........
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 01 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Payback time in what sense?
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 01 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:38 - 01 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely it's the generation that live on Instagram and Twitter and whatever the latest platform for 'likes' is.

A constant pressure, looking for that next viral fad. The likes of Zoella, Joe Sugg, et al spouting this online persona of how fucking fantastic things are all the time.

Add to this the problem of cyber bullying.

I hate kids with a passion, but I'm so glad I grew up without the pressures they are under today.

I got bullied at school and hated it. But once I was out of school I was away from it all. Now it's a constant barrage of abuse, suspicion, expectation 24/7!
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 01 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, yeah......

I'm not sure loneliness is altogether new in this age group. While social media has a big role in everyone's lives nowadays, I can remember feeling alone despite hanging out with groups of friends.

Like most girls, I was part of a small clique of 4 girls who spent every spare minute together. It didn't mean we shared everything though. There was still a sense of "aloneness" as hormonal changes struck or boys ignored you Crying or Very sad

What we didn't have, was the constant need for feedback, "likes" for every outfit, eyebrow, lipstick or dinner. My daughters (19 & 22) are constantly posting, waiting for and counting likes and feeling pressured to "like" other people's postings.

It's a mistake not to accept that we are all alone, the vast majority of the population is indifferent to you and if you believe that everyone is having a better time/sex life/career/holiday/home/pets/friends than you, you're doomed.

Coz you/we are all doomed anyway.

Shit, I was feeling quite cheerful until I started this post.

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PostPosted: 11:21 - 01 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I blame parents and schools for not doing enough to instil healthy interests in their little darling responsibility packages.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 01 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:
You didn't take the hint that they were avoiding you then.


Giving out an abusive rating for that tells me that MPD72 is becoming a bit of a snowflake. Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 11:45 - 01 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because they are on their own doesn't mean they are lonely, they are interacting and socialising with others online rather than face to face, just because it is not how you socialised doesn't mean they feel as lonely as you think they look.

Also since when did 24 year old get class as a teenager? teenager is someone between 13 and 19.

Treating grown adults like children pisses me off, if you are old enough to fuck, vote and marry you are not a child anymore period and deserve no childlike treatment.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 01 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the difference today is that people are constantly being asked how they feel, and if you ask often enough people will abandon the stiff upper lip and you'll get a headline, usually saying a minority are unhappy but expressing it like it's the majority. Heck, in the '80s we were always 3-minutes and a mistake away from nuclear annihilation. We just made pop songs about it. Which reminds me, there is no youth culture these days. Maybe that's part of the problem.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 01 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:

Coz you/we are all doomed anyway.

Shit, I was feeling quite cheerful until I started this post.


All of your post was interesting and insightful (just the right amount of gin Smile ).

Re being doomed. When you realise and think about that all of life and existence is completely pointless (because all forms of energy, including humans, eventually convert to nothing and the whole of human existence is completely pointless) that should be quite an empowering realisation. But for some reason it seems to have the opposite effect (at least for a while), for some reason (presumably related to survival of the species by the survival of our DNA) we need to have meaning and the need to matter.

In the end, it is all pointless and we are all doomed. Doesn't mean we can't have a few laughs in middle Smile

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I'm a very late to the party user of social media and some of it boggles my mind and others I can lose hours sat on phone. Over the course of months, thats a lot of non-activity. So previously I'd be thinking about hobbies, walks, places, things that need fixing, family birthdays, learning something new etc

As a teenager in early 90's, would either be lonely, or do something about it, by going out. But with social media now, its path of least resistance, too easy to pick it up and lose some more hours without actually changing anything, or building towards any changes.

Couple that with constantly looking at the new wave of celebs who are just close enough to us to make us believe we are failing because we are not living life like they are.
Celebs before youtube were on a bit of a pedestal, different. Now its someone like you, maybe from your road, but worth millions and looking stunning. If they have done it, why not you.

I just think its even easier now than it was then to feel bad about yourself which isn't helpful for kids growing up. But the same truth is as valid now as then; life isn't fair but if you don't keep trying and learning then you won't move forward, don't beat yourself up, just dust yourself off, learn and move on.

Mmmm. Maybe too much gin now Smile
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 02 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too fucking right they are all fragile, alone and messed up! These modern fucking Millenials live in a world that's not real and have nothing going for them away from Electronic shit that governs their lives and behaviour!

They had 16years from birth to become normal stable and healthy adults, with real physical hobbies and interests out there in the real world. They are all messed up pressurised and feel like fat failures, because they are fat and fail massively at real life interaction and success.

They and their parents need to change hugely and quickly or they will all be fucked, and we'll see far more teen suicides, obesity, deaths and kids in prison or care etc.
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PostPosted: 06:13 - 02 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://thetab.com/uk/cambridge/2017/04/28/nus-ban-whooping-cheering-clapping-92915

Look at the shit they get taught. Is it any wonder.
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PostPosted: 07:31 - 02 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:

They and their parents need to change hugely and quickly or they will all be fucked, and we'll see far more teen suicides, obesity, deaths and kids in prison or care etc.

If I had kids of my own I might care, but meh... Implode away. Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 02 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here, but it's still sad that some or many young people will grow up with more problems, and less chance of being healthy and normal and able to succeed in the real world.

They already face enough pressures of being the generations with little to no chance of buying their own homes, and not ever seeing a state pension etc.

A bloke at work has two teenage kids, they both have had everything done for them over the years. Lifts to friends houses, or to all their hobbies and appointments. He takes days off work to take them to the dentist etc. His daughter did not even know at the age of 16 how to get a bus!
She said "dad it's your fault as you always did everything for us" but at the time she didn't complain then, expecting her dad to give up his free time and take days off work to take her everywhere in the car.

Kids have no social skills now, no Street skills, no sense of direction or how to read maps or navigate their way through a city. They don't know much about the real world and how to live in it, because they've never seen it.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 02 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

A story as old as time.

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PostPosted: 20:14 - 02 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't resist...

So, I take it you don't like students? Is it because some of them are potential Labour voters, or is it because your grades weren't good enough to get in? Thinking
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 02 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:
An article on the local news just now is once again turning students into the victim again.

This time, it’s because society is forcing the little snowflakes to run up huge gambling debts. Because, nobody under the age of 30 is now responsible for their own stupidity or actions.

I'm reminded the response of a young, progressive but grounded colleague to a new recruit at work who complained (and wasn't the last) that she had a degree and expected to be managing something, not doing the leg work.
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Welcome to the adult world of work.

In my day school was savage whereas the world of work was relatively polite and respectful, but in work you knew you were a junior with lots to learn. These days education tells you no one can fail, you're all winners, so why wouldn't you gamble? Reality bites.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 02 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what makes the difference is if the kid has worked before they leave University. Kids who have worked before getting their first 'proper job' know that money has to be earned. They also know that they are on the bottom of the pile until the next kid comes along...
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 02 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
I think what makes the difference is if the kid has worked before they leave University.


Limited experience. But many of the parents in my office have teenage children who have evening jobs / weekend jobs and from the stories gleamed, they are all a bit messed up. Alcohol issues, police, A&E visits. And those are the things the parents know about.

I had two jobs for 2 years prior to uni and it didn't instil a lot positive grounding.

That said having a work ethic is unlikely to he detrimental, unless taken to an extreme of course.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 02 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

tittymcarseface wrote:

Also since when did 24 year old get class as a teenager? teenager is someone between 13 and 19.


Which pron sites are you browsing?
Expect a knock at the door.

We seem to forget that they're spending all day in a class with 30 other kids, and a lot of them seem to congregate in shopping centres still, so they can't all be on Xbox or a smartphone all the time.

Even when they are on some connected device, the term connected should give you some insight. No different to CB radio back in the 80s, it's a way to keep in touch and have a laugh.
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 03 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 2 teenagers and one 20 year old, and I can confirm that alcohol and A & E visits have featured over the last few years. My daughter is 14 and I can also confirm that I apply double standards when it comes to her nocturnal activities.

The thing is, nothing has changed in this respect from when I was a teenager. Two fundamentals have changed however - social media and drug culture. Back in my day our social media was confined to what you could do in a telephone box, and drugs were rare. Nowadays kids are constantly in contact with hundreds of people they don't really know and consequently don't get any peace, plus drugs are cheaper than beer.

The basics are the same - kids want money and many get a job to pay for things parents won't buy them just like I had to. I apply the same rule with money as my parents did with me - I will pay for the basics and if the kid wants something fancy instead they can make up the difference. As an example, my folks used to give me money for 'Whinnies' trainers (for those old enough to remember Woolies homebrand 2 stripe) and I had to put too to get Adidas Kick instead. I didn't have a choice because to turn out in Whinnies was like turning out with 'ridicule me' tattooed on my forehead.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 03 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
As an example, my folks used to give me money for 'Whinnies' trainers (for those old enough to remember Woolies homebrand 2 stripe) and I had to put too to get Adidas Kick instead. I didn't have a choice because to turn out in Whinnies was like turning out with 'ridicule me' tattooed on my forehead.


Nike Bongo.

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I will never forget my first ridicule free trainers, they meant so much to me at the time. I was a third year secondary pupil
before I got 'cool' brand trainers. I remember my mum buying me some Gola trainers for the school disco some years before
and me refusing to go because I knew I would get stick over my Gola shoes (from people who didn't matter to me at all in hindsight).

When I think back to how hard she was trying, despite not having a great deal of money, I feel quite guilty actually. I think
my Bongo were from the catalogue, paid for by my paper round, milk round and fruit and veg stall money mostly. They were
priceless to me at the time. I remember my first pair of Farah sta-press as well but that's another story. Laughing
Never felt the need to jump off a bridge though. I was one of the desperately uncool kids, add to that being the fat,
goofy kid, rubbish at sports (Admittedly having no idea what a magnificent specimen I would eventually become)
and you can imagine what it was like for me in a Dagenham comprehensive during the 80s. I started smoking to
try and be accepted by those cunts, which I then kept up for over 25 years damaging my health long after I saw any of them
for the last time. I suppose these days the needling continues via social media even after school. But I'm pretty sure
I would have discovered the off switch pretty quickly if my school days had been in the present time.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 03 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
I started smoking to
try and be accepted by those cunts, which I then kept up for over 25 years damaging my health long after I saw any of them
for the last time.


I did exactly the same - the cool kids smoked including a girl I was desperate to ask out. So desperate I bought a packet of fags the same as what she smoked so I looked cool.

All it did was get me hooked, I didn't even cop a feel off her. Brick Wall
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