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Mark65
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Hot Grips Reply with quote

Hi All,
I would like to try some hot grips with my muffs when it gets colder, are the differences with sport/touring/adventure just the grips?.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking at getting some as well. It seems there is the difference in grips, as you mentioned, but there is also a premium or standard product with different settings.
I have yet to buy mine so need to do a bit more investigation as well.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get the wrap round ones it makes the grips very fat but obviously easy to remove if you don't want them on.

I had the Oxford sports grips on my old busa. 4 heat settings. They were the same size as the original grips and east to fit neatly unless you are a really bad DIYer. Laughing

Mine were excellent.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see a lot of faulty reviews on amazon not sure on there longevity alternative is heated gloves, more reviews needed.
i know the new ones have a 3 year warranty so that might help, possibly the bad reviews are the older model.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The older ones used to kill controllers, but the new ones (version 8 i think) seem to be fine. I have two sets and wouldnt have a bike without them
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Re: Hot Grips Reply with quote

I like the ones that use a thin film with flat elements that go under your standard grips.

I've used symtec ones; not tried the much cheaper Chinese ones.

They don't noticeably add to the diameter of the bar and you can use your favoured choice of grip.
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hotgrips grips fall apart after a couple of years hard use. I suspect the material they are made from deteriorates due to the wide temperature range they are constantly subjected to.

I wouldn't use anything else, though.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Hotgrips grips fall apart after a couple of years hard use. I suspect the material they are made from deteriorates due to the wide temperature range they are constantly subjected to.

I wouldn't use anything else, though.

Is this the same regardless of which type you use, e.g sport/ touring/ adventure.
I read that the touring grips are harder wearing but if there isn't much in it then I'd rather have better grip... 🤔
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johanna wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Hotgrips grips fall apart after a couple of years hard use. I suspect the material they are made from deteriorates due to the wide temperature range they are constantly subjected to.

I wouldn't use anything else, though.

Is this the same regardless of which type you use, e.g sport/ touring/ adventure.
I read that the touring grips are harder wearing but if there isn't much in it then I'd rather have better grip... 🤔


I have had OEM heated grips on all the bikes I've owned since about 2007.
The only issue was with one R1200GS the throttle became tight with the heat on. It was replaced by the dealer.
Dogdy AF when it would roll-off. Smile

OEM heated grips are usually priced over £100 maybe more.

The Oxford grips are about £50-60.

There are others but the cheap ones I fitted to a bike years ago were never very good. They split after about a month or so.

None of the OEM grips failed even after years of use. (except the Kamikaze unit on the BMW.)

Edit: If you fit grips you need insulated gloves too or you will not keep the heat inside your glove.

Heated grips will extend your riding season but if you suffer from cold hands then you need more than simply heated grips.
Keep the heat in the blood going to your hands too. Insulate. Jumpers.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johanna wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Hotgrips grips fall apart after a couple of years hard use. I suspect the material they are made from deteriorates due to the wide temperature range they are constantly subjected to.

I wouldn't use anything else, though.

Is this the same regardless of which type you use, e.g sport/ touring/ adventure.
I read that the touring grips are harder wearing but if there isn't much in it then I'd rather have better grip... 🤔


AFAIK the difference is all down to the length of the grip
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have used heating for about 14 years.

On my Z750 I have the actual heated grips, 4 settings.

On my ER6 I have always used wrap arounds, I'm probably on my 3rd or 4th set, I've had the bike since 2007.

I don't actually have a problem with the bulk of the wrap arounds.

I do however also use muffs, in fact heated grips in winter without muffs are crxp. (warm palms, cold rear of fingers).

With Tucano muffs, heated grips are excellent and you DO NOT NEED WINTER GLOVES. The Tucano is fully waterproofs and it stops the wind chill and with the heating your hads are toasty warm.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawakid wrote:
Have used heating for about 14 years.

On my Z750 I have the actual heated grips, 4 settings.

On my ER6 I have always used wrap arounds, I'm probably on my 3rd or 4th set, I've had the bike since 2007.

I don't actually have a problem with the bulk of the wrap arounds.

I do however also use muffs, in fact heated grips in winter without muffs are crxp. (warm palms, cold rear of fingers).

With Tucano muffs, heated grips are excellent and you DO NOT NEED WINTER GLOVES. The Tucano is fully waterproofs and it stops the wind chill and with the heating your hads are toasty warm.


Aye. But muffs on a man's motorcycle look as camp as fcku.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 08 Oct 2018    Post subject: Re: Hot Grips Reply with quote

G wrote:
I like the ones that use a thin film with flat elements that go under your standard grips.

I've used symtec ones; not tried the much cheaper Chinese ones.

They don't noticeably add to the diameter of the bar and you can use your favoured choice of grip.


I also used these on both my bike and Mrs stinkwheels bike at Gs recommendation years ago and have no complaints.
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PostPosted: 02:29 - 09 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

jakebrownbass wrote:
AFAIK the difference is all down to the length of the grip


Touring grips lasted me 3 winters. The Sport and Touring ones are the same length and feel narrow on my XL hands. They are maybe 10mm shorter than stock bandit grips. The Adventure ones are longer and suit big hands better.
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PostPosted: 07:37 - 09 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my old Yami I had the R&G ones fitted and they worked fine until the bike was stolen. We have a training bike which also has them fitted and still working fine after a good 5 years of us owning it.

I have 2 pars ordered at the moment, one for mine and one for Mr's Pinkys bike.

Get a 4 pin relay and fit them to the tail light via the relay rather than straight to the battery, that way you will never leave them on when you get off the bike. Mate had made the mistake of wiring them straight to the bike and one morning he could not start his machine. He'd left the grips on all night.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 09 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:

Aye. But muffs on a man's motorcycle look as camp as fcku.

Only one thing that looks camper - the person that got left behind because by the bloke on the bike with muffs because they were cold so weren't quite as sharp Wink.

OP already stated they had muffs.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 09 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Get a 4 pin relay and fit them to the tail light via the relay rather than straight to the battery, that way you will never leave them on when you get off the bike. Mate had made the mistake of wiring them straight to the bike and one morning he could not start his machine. He'd left the grips on all night.


Better to use the rear brake live, not all bikes have always on lights.[/url]
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 09 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
On my old Yami I had the R&G ones fitted and they worked fine until the bike was stolen. We have a training bike which also has them fitted and still working fine after a good 5 years of us owning it.

I have 2 pars ordered at the moment, one for mine and one for Mr's Pinkys bike.

Get a 4 pin relay and fit them to the tail light via the relay rather than straight to the battery, that way you will never leave them on when you get off the bike. Mate had made the mistake of wiring them straight to the bike and one morning he could not start his machine. He'd left the grips on all night.


The new Oxford ones turn themselves off i've had no issues with the two sets i have on my bikes.
Afetr about 5 minutes of no electrical activity they turn themselves off.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 10 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
MCN wrote:

Aye. But muffs on a man's motorcycle look as camp as fcku.

Only one thing that looks camper - the person that got left behind because by the bloke on the bike with muffs because they were cold so weren't quite as sharp Wink.

OP already stated they had muffs.


Or had an off because their hands no longer had any feel, or has to sit somewhere on arrival hugging a mug before they can do anything.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 10 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say I was never comfortable with muffs. I'm sure it was purely psychological but I was always much happier with heated grips and decent gloves.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 10 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I have to say I was never comfortable with muffs. I'm sure it was purely psychological but I was always much happier with heated grips and decent gloves.

I didn't like it to start with, but did get used to it.

However, there is the suggestion that I wouldn't have the scar on my head from hitting an under-water pothole on my push bike and going over the bars if I hadn't had muffs on it. (Yes I did have the Tuccano's on my push bike - makes riding in February a lot less irksome.)
(Also might have helped if I had a helmet on Smile .)
((And not been trying to splash someone by riding next to them through quite deep water! Smile )
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 10 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replys all
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