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Do you use hazards when filtering?
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Never
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Sometimes depending on the situation
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No, just no its one step up from a "POLITE" tabard
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natefz6
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: To blink or not to blink.. Reply with quote

As the nights are drawing in and the morning will soon be dark I see more people filtering with their hazards on.

This is something I very rarely do, on the motorway I can see some benefit to it but when driving round town my personal opinion is it makes you look like a tit.

In the interests of science I did try enabling the hazards on my commute (the motorway part) on yesterday's drizzly monday morning. It did "feel" like people noticed me more and more cars made space.

I still don't think it's something I will be doing very often but I wondered what others view on this were.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike doesn't even have hazard lights, so that's a no from me

And never seen anyone else do it round these parts either
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rely on my exhaust and headlight. None of my bikes have ever had hazards.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wotcha.

I don't own a bike with hazards.

The big blue trike has got 'em, but it tends to get stuck when filtering.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have hazards. Don't really want 'em either.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpsmith79 wrote:
My bike doesn't even have hazard lights, so that's a no from me

A wired in momentary-contact hazard switch on my zx9. Was more to say 'thanks' to people without taking hands out of muffs.

But sometimes would use them in heavy traffic.
However, worried that they could be misinterpreted as a signal by someone that only saw one side.

Flexible LED strip running lights on muffs also seemed to help - but these days seeing LED running lights is pretty common, so may be a bit less obvious.

Motorway I was generally less bothered by people giving me space - to some degree preferred people not to react at all often and make my own choices.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hazard lights are for when there is a hazard on the road ahead.

Now, have you heard about the boy who cried wolf?
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't use them when i had them on my bikes.
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't even have indicators. Confused
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Hazard lights are for when there is a hazard on the road ahead.

Now, have you heard about the boy who cried wolf?


yes he became the head of Egyptian intelligence and spied for Israel
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:
I don't even have indicators. Confused


Must be a laugh, riding that at night. Smile
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Hazard lights are for when there is a hazard on the road ahead.

And for parking illegally outside a shop. Hazards make it all right.

My R1 has hazards but I don't understand why. If you break down on a bike you push it to safety and then hope nobody spots it before you return.

I've seen riders using hazard flashers while filtering along the A1 but I don't think it gets them seen any more than dipped beam does.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the placement of many indicators....

All you will ensure is someone pulling in front of you thinking you are turning left.....
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither bike has them
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never thought about or seen anyone using hazard lamps when filtering.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely not, they do nothing useful in terms of warning people in front and are an annoying distraction for any following biker, especially in the wet.

I always assume that anyone filtering with hazards on isn't capable of thinking properly and needs them as some sort of comfort cushion, as if they act like a safety-forcefield. I give them a wide berth.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:

I've seen riders using hazard flashers while filtering along the A1 but I don't think it gets them seen any more than dipped beam does.

Dipped beam can easily make it harder to judge vector of the bike and also just get swallowed in a sea of daytime running lights.

But of course - either require drivers to use their mirrors in the first place! Smile
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't have a hazards switch on mine.

Personally I think hazards for filtering would confuse motorists even more.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 16 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is a habit from across the pond.

I was in Paris recently in a LWB van and every single bike and scooter had their hazards on whilst filtering.

First time I’ve seen it.

But I have to give credit to the guys filtering through tiny gaps on goldwings
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PostPosted: 02:00 - 17 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only things that should use hazard lights whilst driving are vehicles being towed on the motorway or unrestricted dual carriageway or if you are on a mobility scooters etc on a dual carriageway.

Your hazard lights are to alert people to a hazard/ obstruction caused by your vehicle whilst you are stationary and should not be on whilst driving or parking ilegally.

It is acceptable though to switch on your hazards if you encounter an objector/situation ahead that may be out of view of the following traffic so as to bring it to their attention, but once the hazard is past or you are sure the vehicle behind has notices the hazard you should turn them back off.

Riding with them on unnecessarily would just cause a distraction and I would imagine you could get done for driving without due care or something if you leave them on?





The new trend for flashing brake lights gets on my tits too, the rules for them are supposed to be that they work independently of other controls under hard braking but the after market ones come on EVERY time the brake is pressed.

They are supposed to only come on if the vehicle brakes hard for an emergency stop type situation which would require a brake switch that operated later in the pedal throw or some sort of inertia switch.

The ones that strobe/flash on every press should not be able to pass an mot imo.
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 17 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I though that hazard lights were for bmw drivers to park on double yellows.
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 17 Oct 2018    Post subject: Re: To blink or not to blink.. Reply with quote

natefz6 wrote:
As the nights are drawing in and the morning will soon be dark I see more people filtering with their hazards on.


Since RB is missing:

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/lighting-requirements.html (section 116)
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/regulation/27/made
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 18 Oct 2018    Post subject: Re: To blink or not to blink.. Reply with quote

Confusion wrote:


That cleared that up then.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 18 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't really do much though does it? Seems fucking pointless and whenever I see someone doing it I throw up a bit inside my helmet.

Only time I ever used hazards is when a mate lowsided in front of me in the lanes, when there was a sea of gravel completely caking all three lanes across a section of the A41, and when I rode my flat rear tyre at <20mph to a bike shop about a mile away.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 18 Oct 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meef wrote:
It doesn't really do much though does it?

Anecdotally - it does - people do seem to notice you sooner.
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