More theft, prevention?

[Riejufixing]

Most bikes it seems to me are ridden away. Electrics bypassed, locks removed, off it goes. A few are stuffed into vans.

So, for the ones ridden away, they need to actually go. Is there any sense in or possibility of "doing something" apart from electrically via the ignition switch to make them not go?

[NeverAgain]

They don't often start them to ride off with them. The video below is the best example I can find with my limited Google-Fu.

They use a moped with a leg out to push the other scum bag on the stolen bike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWB3mBthdSw

[rpsmith79]

[Riejufixing]

Is there anything the combined knowledge and intellect of the BCF can come up with, I wonder?

[Sister Sledge]

[recman]

I think the Abba stand concept could work.
A main lock body of some description with a smaller adapter to fit the particular bike if need be.

[Ste]

There is only one way to prevent theft and that's to kill all thieves.

[tittymcarsefa...]

Front and rear disc locks and a chain around something immovable usually does the trick.

The best deterrent is an alarm and immobiliser I'm not talking about the junky chinese ones that share very few fobs (one fob likely to works multiple bikes) A proper one with tilt and shock sensors,

If the alarm doesn't put them off the average scumbag will be stumped by the immobiliser when they try twisting the wires from the black box together.

Whilst living on castle vale my cb-1 was targeted at least twice a week if it wasn't in the garage , they would scarper as soon as the alarm went off, bike would usually end up on the floor though which was a pain in the arse.

I had the light flash power supply fed through a relay to the horn so not only did the alarm sound and the lights flash but the horn sounded as well.

[natefz6]

What?

Nobody mentioned taking the wheels and fairings off and leaving it chained to a lampost?

Ah right that doesn't work the council still nick it.
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[Andy_Pagin]

[Hawkeye1250FA]

Easy.

https://m.reichelt.com/gb/en/electric-fence-system-high-voltage-generator-fg-025-p150942.html?CTYPE=0&MWSTFREE=0&PROVID=2788&wt_guka=59643250692_263552407415&PROVID=2788&gclid=CjwKCAjwu5veBRBBEiwAFTqDwZk3LjtOqLf_pCirbSLXZfbjzBJ6Pm3clxdPDObYUJyPrff23McEMhoCPQ0QAvD_BwE&&r=1
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[rpsmith79]

[Hawkeye1250FA]

Id connect it to a remote control personally. Or at the very least a microswitch with a 45s delay.

Would be much more satisfactory if they were up to speed before it kicked in. 👍👍👍
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1993 RF400R - 2002 Bandit 1200 - 2012 1250 FA

[stevo as b4]

Steering locks are just a basic factory fitted minimum precaution, and you would be fucking daft to think they should be an industrial grade vault locking pin etc.
Remember they have to fit on pared to the bone sports bikes and there's no overly strong parts on modern bikes.

If you wanted to make a more effective steering lock, you'd be better making it lock the bars to the stem for riding, and when parked have the bars disengaged from the steering tube so that they can go side to side without turning the front wheel.

Preventing theft? Nothing else works like keeping a bike locked up out of sight, but better still not have anyone know where you keep it or that you've got one.

It would be better to have a bike stored indoors, or if you park in block of 10 council garages etc then make the area where you ride into to garage block out of sight. If people know a bike lives in that block of garages but can't narrow it down to which one, then it's less likely all 10 will get broken into on the off chance your Ducati 1299 is in there.

[Ste]

A good way to prevent theft of your bike is to park next to a more desirable bike that's got worse security.

[Riejufixing]

[Ste]

Having the bars able to disengage from the steerer tube and just spin freely sounds perfectly safe.

[Riejufixing]

[dydey90]

Step 1: get an NFC chip implanted. https://jenova-rain.com/nfc-implant-uk/

Step 2: loosen seat

Step 3: create intricate contraption involving compressed spring from car suspension linked to nfc chip reader on handlebar. No chip, seat go boom.

Step 4: I forgot I was transporting that spring officer.

Step 5: don’t forget to remove before selling bike.
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Past: CBR125,ER6f NINJA 650, ZZR600 Current: VFR750

[Davemc37]

[rpsmith79]

[Hawkeye1250FA]

[ScottT]

[stevo as b4]

All these things add weight though! Your all going to be on the other side when buying a new bike. And if a WSB 1000 with lights is what your after, are you really going to pay more money for a bike with such security features that weighs 10kg more than all its rivals that just have a simple std steering lock?

My suggestion was half serious, but on the same principle as having a car where you can remove the steering wheel and take it with you as a theft prevention device.

A vault grade steering lock or a Swingarm big and strong enough to have holes through both sides and a locking bar that fits through is fantasy land, and would make any given bike too expensive and uncompetitive. It might actually help the guys that lift the bikes off and into vans too!

[andym]

Quick release clutch, brake & gear levers?

Bike in gear then remove levers