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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Depends what you've had done and what happens in the crash.
If it's an intramedullary pin up the middle of the bone and it gets bent, it's a total pain in the arsre to do anything with. Any implant will tend to cause stess risers within the bone structure so it's more likely to break at the end of the implant in case of subsequent trauma.
But more likely to break at all? I'm not sure, again, depends what the implant is and how well the implant has taken I suppose. If you do crash and re-break it, breaking it was always on the cards anyway because you'd still have to subject the bone to a huge stress.
As they said, unless they are causing issues, it's best to leave implants in place, the bone re-models to take the implant into account. Removing it will weaken the bone again until it has a chance to remodel to cope without the metalwork .(minimum 6 weeks) ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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I've often wondered why they don't use external fixators more for collarbones (none of the species I treat have much of a collarbone so it's a bit of an odd one to me). It's pretty near the surface so would lend itself to that kind of repair. It would get in the way a lot when it's in place but compared to plates and screws, it's less traumatic and I'd expect it to have less ongoing issues. They come off after the bone is healed.
I suppose the main problem is they leave clavicles so long hoping they'll repair themselves that screws and bone graft are necessary to get compression at the fracture site. I wonder if they've done a study on what happens if you dive in with an ex-fix when it first happens. I bet you'd get good results. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I broke my clavicle, like you it never joined so had the op and bone graft, went well and all ready to go the following season. First meeting I clipped someones back wheel, went down and broke it again, felt the snap. It was definitely more painful than the last one. Off to hospital on the diamorphine (good stuff, still hurts but you dont give a shit). X-rays showed it had snapped along the last screw, come out and gone over the plate.
They offered me a choice, another op or try to manipulate it back into position and hope for the best. Due to work getting fed up of me banging myself up I chose the manipulation. along with the collarbone I'd also done the shoulder blade in 2 places and 3 or 4 ribs. Was it painful? If they ever give me the choice again it will be the op! One guy pulled my arm and the other pushed the bone under the plate with his thumb , then immobilised my arm in a special sling.
Upshot was its healed ok but gives me som jip If I swing on it or lay on that side.
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Can't help with your original question, but I think it's a good thing you had some kind of stabilisation.
I broke my clavicle in a bike accident in 1983 and was basically told there was no treatment, either directly after the crash or at any point in the future.
Mine snapped almost in the middle, but no attempt was made to stabilise or immobilise it, beyond a sling that loosely strapped my hand to the opposite shoulder. As a result, the join was constantly dislocating and, eventually, it fused with the distal end behind and towards the proximal portion, something like this
https://i.imgur.com/z14nk8x.png
I've had 35 years of restricted movement, an inability to lay on my right side and all sorts of postural issues, leading to sometimes crippling back problems.
When I think about it now, even with the technology available then, it would've been so easy to screw a plate across it and save me all of the trouble I've had (and continue to have) with it, but then you had to be Barry Sheene to get that kind of treatment. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: | Shaft wrote: | I've had 35 years of restricted movement, an inability to lay on my right side and all sorts of postural issues, leading to sometimes crippling back problems.
When I think about it now, even with the technology available then, it would've been so easy to screw a plate across it and save me all of the trouble I've had (and continue to have) with it, but then you had to be Barry Sheene to get that kind of treatment. |
Why not just go and get it sorted now, then? I mean, mine was pretty much healed up (wrongly!) and had to be rebroken during the surgery before the fixator could be attached; I can't see that's very different from your scenario? |
I have explored that possibility, but the general opinion seems to be it's too late for me now, unless I want to spend many thousands of pounds on private surgery and years of physio.
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I have the iams fixation in my left leg
meant I could walk on the leg from day one and was back on two wheels within a month
can feel the screws inside when its cold through my skin ____________________ gilera runner vxr200 (chavped)
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andyscooter wrote: | I have the iams fixation in my left leg |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 175 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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