Immobilisers

[Pothole]

Guys looking for a immobiliser for the bike. I’m not fussed about an alarm so just the immobiliser, any recommendations

[Easy-X]

You'll have to give us a little more than that. Taking the ignition key out and putting the steering lock on is one immobiliser as are disk locks and chains through the wheel

Are you talking physical security or some sort of electronic gizmo?
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[stinkwheel]

I had a look for one fairly recently. Did not succeed in finding a worthwhile, relatively inexpensive one that was a) Passive and b) Did not include an alarm.
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[Pothole]

I have a chain and disk lock how ever I’m after a electrical immobiliser. Not one built into an alarm

[Easy-X]

You're unlikely to find one. It's quite a common thing to find an alarm/immobiliser combo but not just one or the other. Why do you not want an alarm?

Easiest would be an alarm/immobiliser and just not connect the siren.
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[Polarbear]

Or fit a hidden switch that cuts power or emulates the kill switch.
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[stinkwheel]

A keyless ignition might do the job? RFID encoded switch.

If you want it to be totally passive (no battery draw at rest), you could wire it so the ignition switch powers up the keyless ignition.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Just pull the main fuse and carry it in your pocket.
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[colink98]

isn't going to stop the bike getting nicked as the scrotes just use a ped to push your bike along.
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[Easy-X]

[RhynoCZ]

[Pothole]

I didn’t want an alarm as so many time I have about people having issues with them, what ever brands they have fitted. Yes I know an immobiler can be just as much of a pain but a designated immobiliser that isn’t combined with other gubbings has less to go wrong.

[dynax]

try and find a padlock with a long enough shackle to go on the throttle and clamp on the front brake when locked, as an aside i have this alarm and immobiliser and to date not had any problems with it, as far as i'm concerned great piece of kit for the money,

https://www.motorbikealarm.co.uk/shop/ncs-c-11-talking-motorbike-alarm-and-immobiliser-system/
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[weasley]

[SirFallalot]

[sickpup]

[stevo as b4]

Is it wheel away or ride away thefts the idea of an alarm/immobiliser is trying to prevent or deter from?

If it's just a barrier to a would be thief trying to start your bike, then it does seem quite complicated and pointless having a box full of electronics that could get wet/damaged or just become unreliable over time. There are lots of ways you could simply disable a bikes electrical system or starter motor that don't take long or need many tools or stripping of the bike to achieve.

Unless you want to put all your time and money into strong physical locked down security when out and about, then I don't think it's worth bothering with any other forms of security.


And having a tracker system needs your bike to be stolen before it might be any good to you or worth the expense. I do think people over estimate the number of thefts that are ride away on a running bike instances.

If you want someone's bike, not being able to start it and ride it off is going to be much or any of a concern. If we were trying to deliberately steal other peoples nice expensive or stolen to order bikes, we'd be using vans and watching people at their homes and work places.

[Tankie]

The voice of reality at last!
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[RhynoCZ]

[MCN]

Almost any immobiliser risks an 'I canny get it tae start' problem.
Even a simple cut out switch. It's the device that introduces unreliability into system.
So cost effective is dependent on the cost to replace cherished machine. Or how inconvenient it would be to meet a missing bike.
Pick your parking spot is important too.
I think the lager UK cities are cuntholes for Scroteria.
Live on a Scottish island. Only problem there are the midges and the wimin.
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[Easy-X]

Okay, serious thoughts on security...

I can think of two types of cunts criminals that would steal a bike:

1) Juvenile Delinquents

Most likely to then do a bag snatch later or a quick flip. Crucially these guys are unlikely to have any larger transport and would only bowl up on foot or on the back of a scooter. That means all the tools they have are portable so screwdrivers, wire cutters, bolt cutters and a battery powered drills and angle-grinders.

Number 1 security priority I can think of is not leaving a bike somewhere where the scrotes are allowed any length of time to attend to the it e.g. the pub car park overnight, or a dodgy area e.g. anywhere in London.

After that, visible and physical security - lots of stuff to cut or break off. If it looks like hassle they might avoid your bike.

Less visible security like immobilisers? They're going to attack the obvious stuff first before attempting to start the bike. And when they've got to this stage they'll happily push it away if they have to.

An alarm is only of use if you yourself are in earshot. However, as an alternative to a siren alarm you could fit a silent alarm that sets off a pager. A bit more expensive but at least you don't annoy the neighbours when you accidentally set it off in the morning

At this point a GPS based alarm or tracker might help you. They're unlikely to have had time to strip the bike and discover it so you have an opportunity to give chase or discover where it's been dumped.

2) East Europeans*

All of the above but this time you have two or more blokes with a van. Two things are going to happen: either it's targeted i.e. they have outstanding orders on your particular bike or random i.e. just filling up their shipping container.

For a targeted attack the only thing that would slow them down is to chain the bike to something (even in a locked garage!) and keep it out of sight for the most part (aforementioned garage, back garden, bike cover) and hope your particular model goes unnoticed.

After that steering locks, disk locks, alarms and immobilisers are pointless as they'll just throw it in the back of the van.

Again a tracker might help but these guys are likely to either a) strip the bike in short order, maybe even in the van! or b) leave it parked somewhere to see if a tracker is fitted.

For a random attack they'll just be pulling up to any bike at the side of the road they spot and throw it in the van. All you can do is bolt it to something (chain around lamp post) or have a rat bike they don't want to steal

*other racism is available on request
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[NJD]

Wouldn't even bother with an alarm / immobiliser that wasn't built into the bike at factory.

I had a Datatool S3 that got removed -- at much expensive, and difficulty in finding someone that wanted to have a go at doing it -- because it did my head in the moment I got it.

Think about it: the electrical gubbins have the possibility of shitting themselves and leaving you unable to start your bike in the middle of nowhere. My Datatool only had to go off randomly in the middle of the night once without a way of stopping it before I binned it.

Sod investing money into one, and count yourself lucky you've got a bike without one.

Plenty of chains and multiple (if needed) cheap trackers.
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