Street Triple electrical woes

Mr Hammers · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Karma :

Ok, so on way to work and bike just cuts out completely. Had issues the day before, hit the start button and everything goes dead. Left it for a minute, electrics come back on, but still won't turn over. Play around with clutch switch, sidestand, and then it fires up no problem. Ride to work and it's fine. Leave work and same agin, but again fires up eventually.

Get home, check under seat, everything looks ok, except terminals on battery are a little loose. Tighten them up, test it, all good, leave it for a while, still all good.

Fires up this morning no probs, but halfway round the roundabout engine just stops.

Still have electrics, but won't start. No clicking when hitting start button, nothing.

Battery is fine (putting out 12ish volts when checked yesterday, and 14ish when running) and it's not the starter or it wouldn't have stopped when running.

Anyone have an idea as to what it might be?
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bacon · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Karma :

Over 12.6v is what you want to see from a fully charged battery without the engine running.

Does sound like a loose or corroded connector, maybe even a bad earth?

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Is it a Mk1 (2007-2009) Street triple? If so, have a look at this thread:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=325271

Also check the regulator rectifier, the battery and the ECM fuse.

Does the dash light up? Do the indicators and brake light work? If so, and nothing else works, then what happened to me has happened to you.
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P. · Red Rocket Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Is gonna be a horrible corroded connector ala MarJay or its managed to rub one of the wires against your frame around the headstock for maximum fun.

colink98 · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 27 Jun 2016 Karma :

you know i'm having exactly the same issues with my Honda and i'm 100% certain it the connector between the wiring harness and the solenoid, which is giving an intermittent fault to the bikes +

result bike dies for no reason, all the lights go out and the revs drop to nothing, the engine still turns but make empty noise if i throttle.

give the connector a good wiggle and it springs back into life.

not sure if how the wiring is on the stripple... but maybe there is some common ground.
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Mr Hammers · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Karma :

Thanks for all the suggestions, all, much appreciated. Just got home ready to try them all out one by one, but glad to say i've now fixed it, and it was embarrassingly easy one. Embarassed

As i was about to start pulling everything off, i thought i'd see what the little black box thing under the seat was. I'd tugged at it this morning along with all the other wires/connectors when i broke down, but didn't occur to me to actually pull it apart and push it back together.

First thing i tried when i got home, and as soon as i did, it fired up straight after.

It's this thing here;
https://www.planetash.net/bcf/bastard.jpg

Not even sure what it's for, as in what it actually is connecting to what, but the main thing is that that is what was the problem.

Glad it was such a cheap and easy fix, but feel a bit daft not figuring it out at the time. Had a hour's walk home after work as well. That was shit. Fuck walking!

Anyway, again thanks everyone! Thumbs Up

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bacon · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Karma :

Do you have an alarm fitted?

Reason I ask is the wires are all black. Maybe it came loose and immobilised the bike.

owl · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2016 Karma :

that looks remarkably like the immobiliser bypass plug my dealer gave me
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Mr Hammers · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Karma :

bacon · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Karma :

The first gen street triple didn't have an immobiliser as standard, in which case maybe a previous owner fitted a alarm/immobiliser at some stage?

The second gen does have an immobiliser as standard. What year is your bike?

bacon · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Karma :

Could add some dielectric grease to the connectors, keep out moisture.

Mr Hammers · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Karma :

It's a 2008, bacon. It's had two previous owners, the guy i bought it from never mentioned anything, but the first one might've.

I'll have a look on t'ebay for some, cheers!
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owl · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2016 Karma :

Alarm blanking plug, like bacon said probably had one that was removed

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-DATATOOL-S4-OR-SYSTEM-3-THREE-ALARM-REMOVAL-PLUG-FOR-STREET-TRIPLE-675/201998597431
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Mr Hammers · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Karma :

Think you're right, looks exactly the same. Thirty quid?!? Blimey.

Anyway, as it's there, and i've been thinking about fitting an alarm, maybe this one, but the blurb says;

"Datatool S4 Green - upgrades bikes or scooters already fitted with Thatcham approved Category 2 immobilisation to full Thatcham Category 1 status"

I'm not sure if it already has Cat 2 immobilisation...is there any way to check?
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bacon · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Karma :

Owl, what led you to fitting an immobiliser bypass plug?? Was ithe stock immobiliser misbehaving? Or did you fit an alarm?

Pigeon · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Sep 2012 Karma :

Most owners fit that blanking plug to get rid of useless factory option Datatool Alarms that leave them stranded (me too).

I certainly wouldn't buy a Datatool alarm again.

Keep the blanking plate, clean connectors, use dielectric grease on the outer ends of the plug (but not the connectors inside) to stop further water ingress.

bacon · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Karma :

Well Owl bought my street triple from me so I know it never had an alarm!

Curiosity about an old bike is all Smile

owl · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2016 Karma :

Yeah don’t pay £30 for that Laughing

Asked my dealer for the bypass plug to test something and he gave me one for free.

Don’t know much about alarms sorry, you could try the street-triple.co.uk bunch, generally quite knowledgeable about this stuff.

@bacon yeah I had a few incidents where it seemed to be the immobiliser playing up, red light blinking on the dash and just wouldn’t start. As usual the moment I got the plug it stopped happening and then I got shot of it shortly after as I fancied a change.
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bacon · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Karma :

/Thread hijack

Ah so you got rid? What did you get? The 1290? MT09SP?

owl · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2016 Karma :

McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

That connector is an OE part of the wiring harness to blank off the connector that the alarm is fitted to. It's usually shrink wrapped, so the fact that it isn't suggests that an alarm has been fitted & removed at some point. It should be coated with dielectric grease, if it isn't then give it a coating and then cable tie it back on to stop it coming back off. Thumbs Up

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