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Has he stopped paying his TV licence yet? ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Julia is a bit of a fox, if that is what you mean... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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My take:
Karen Bradley MP - Tory through and through, white woman and the Conservative's 'voice of reason', encouraging people to vote with the PM. Soundbite queen. No reason for her to exist.
Clive Lewis MP - Labour MP, mixed heritage, faked suicide in the Commons recently and was caught on camera. Would like the whole thing to collapse and Labour to win a general election. Came across as a knob.
Richard Walker - White MD of Iceland. Argued for clarity and for the PM's 'deal'. A business perspective.
Trevor Phillips - Black former Labour MP, famous for saying that even black people can be racist. On the board of John Lewis. Remainer. Very clever bloke and a pragmatist.
Julia Hartley-Brewer - White woman. Bit of a fox. Ardent supporter of Brexit. Argued that no deal is better than the one proposed.
So, 3 whites, one black and one inbetweenie. One TM Tory, one Labour, one businessman, one journalist and an all-rounder. Two for TM's deal, one for no deal, one for a general election and one remainer who presumably wants a general election as well.
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Posted: 11:03 - 23 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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I count that as three, but only if you see May's deal as leaving which is debateable. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Diggs wrote: | I count that as three, but only if you see May's deal as leaving which is debateable. |
It's not leaving the EU in any way, shape or form, it's actually surrendering us to even more EU control, so your 3 is actually 1.
Remain are pushing for this deal, because under all the bullshit, it's more remain than leave. The EU have us by the balls under it. We pay them up front to have the possibility of negotiating whether they ever let us do out own thing in the future or decide not to.
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Understand the subtext - I said 3 'if you see May's deal as leaving...'.
I didn't suggest that I agreed with it. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Last night's QT panel:
Nadhim Zahawi - Tory minister, originally for Brexit, toeing the Party line. Non-white. Nothing interesting to say.
Rebecca Long-Bailey - Labour shadow-minister, remainer but toeing the party line. White, working class background. Nothing interesting to say.
Layla Moran - Lib-Dem MP, remainer, ex teacher. White. Nothing interesting to say.
Tim Martin - multi-millionaire head of 'Spoons, therefore responsible for people on pavements across Britain at 10.30am with a pint and a fag. For Brexit. White, probably an Aussie. Wants Boris as PM. Sees Brexit as an opportunity. Interesting bloke to listen to.
Benjamin Zephaniah - poet, rasta, vegan dude. Black. Didn't give a view on Brexit. Not entirely sure what he contributed to the discussion.
So, 3 white, one black, one (possibly) Indian, one supporting TM, 3 against, one with no clear opinion but doesn't eat fish.
Seems like a reasonable spread. Awaiting MPG's accusation of BBC bias. 3,2,1..... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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So 3 politicans who want to remain, or agree a deal which is as damn near as you get to remaining, a random black poet who, even though you pretend otherwise, is left wing activist and anti leaving the EU, he also labelled Brexit supporters as racist.
Oh, and one person who wants to leave the EU.
Quote: | The poet and activist has said he had the worst motivations of some Brexit supporters “shouted” at him
"My whole take on Brexit was a very unusual one. From my left-wing leaning, I’d want to leave, but actually, for dealing with politics the way we have been, the reality, I’d want to stay." |
Impartial my arse. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Udp, always looking for the conspiracy...
What he said last night was that he remembered a conversation with the late, great Tony Benn who you will doubtless recall was both left-wing and anti our membership of the EU, where Mr Benn described how we needed to leave before we got so intermeshed that we couldn't. Doesn't matter which way you lean on the debate, Tony Benn was right about the practicality of leaving. This view conflicted with his natural inclination to stay but still resonates with him, so he is in two minds about the whole thing.
As long as you think the only option is agree nothing at all, you will always think that anybody with a different view is against you, therefore the BBC will always be at the forefront of a conspiracy.
The only thing that made sense last night was the view of Mr 'Spoons, that our negotiating position would have been stronger if we had started from the baseline of 'no deal' and let the EU come to us with concessions. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Diggs wrote: | Udp, always looking for the conspiracy...
What he said last night was that he remembered a conversation with the late, great Tony Benn who you will doubtless recall was both left-wing and anti our membership of the EU, where Mr Benn described how we needed to leave before we got so intermeshed that we couldn't. Doesn't matter which way you lean on the debate, Tony Benn was right about the practicality of leaving. This view conflicted with his natural inclination to stay but still resonates with him, so he is in two minds about the whole thing.
As long as you think the only option is agree nothing at all, you will always think that anybody with a different view is against you, therefore the BBC will always be at the forefront of a conspiracy.
The only thing that made sense last night was the view of Mr 'Spoons, that our negotiating position would have been stronger if we had started from the baseline of 'no deal' and let the EU come to us with concessions. |
Whilst I understand why the politicians and Wetherspoons boss were picked, what exactly did the Black Left Wing Activist and Poet get picked for?
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For the view of a black vegan poet. The broader the view, the more entertaining the discussion and the more informative it can be for the likes of you and I. Not complicated.
You will love who is on next week - your old mate, laughing boy incarnate, Will Self. He genuinely is anti-Brexit so I expect an ardent Brexiteer also for balance. Lets see what the Beeb does.... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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The questions were about Brexit rather than socialism v neo-classical economics. As you know, Left Wing views are divided on this subject. If anything, the further to the left one goes, the more one agrees with Brexit so if he were chosen for extreme political views, this contradicts your argument about impartiality. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Riejufixing wrote: | Diggs wrote: | I count that as three, but only if you see May's deal as leaving which is debateable. |
It is leaving. How can "The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question"[1] AND "The European Communities Act 1972 is repealed"[2] not mean leaving?
Still, we've been through that before. Some people just won't believe it, and discussing it won't be productive.
[1] EU's Article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon. "Treaty of Nice, Treaty of Amsterdam, Treaty of Maastricht, Single European Act".
[2] UK's European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018. |
Leaving apart from still abiding by their rules, regulations, giving up
Our fishing waters, being tied to their customs union and unable to strike our own trade deals, unless after paying them £38BN up front, they suddenly feel sorry for us and actually decide to let us properly leave.
You have a strange lack of understanding over this deal, on a par with the shite May is lying to everyone about. You seem to be taking her lies as truth, even when they're not only blatant, but proven lies. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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