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Posted: 11:03 - 14 Nov 2018 Post subject: BCF members opinions on choppers |
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I'm not talking about OCC or Jesse James biker build off TV aids, I'm mainly talking about cb550 diggers, shovelhead chops, old Harleys, triumphs and BSAs. Look at Powerplant Choppers, 4Q Conditioning type of work. more traditional, sensible rakes and fork length, etc.
Can you appreciate the bringing an old bike back to life but in a more stylised manner?
I get the vibe this forum is more suited to sensible 600cc Japanese standard bike riders and adventure bike granddads, but I was thinking what are your opinions on these bikes.
or just call me a hipster and roll off on your fazer winter 'hack' ____________________ 98' RZ50, 92' H100S2, 03' VT125, 59' Jubilee 250, 05' varadero chop, |
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Polarbear wrote: | In the national motor museum in Beaulieu there is an Ariel square 4 chop.
( 8< )
The purists hate it.
Just thought you would like to know. |
In its day it must have been quite stylish! That's one of the later ones. My dad had one (not chopped, but with a sidecar on it). |
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Prettiest bike I've owned was a Suzuki Savage. In reality, feet forward doesn't bode well for commuting in the rain since your waterproofs inflate, and any bumps are transmitted straight up your spine since you can't use your legs to brace yourself at all. The speedo in the tank keeps the lines clean, but steals a lot of space that would be better spent on holding fuel, in an already small tank. Given the MPH performance, 50MPG is piss poor - my Enfield is both faster and more fuel efficient.
Would I have another? Possibly, it still made me smile when I saw it. But it's style over substance. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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How does he oil the chain? |
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Riejufixing wrote: | Polarbear wrote: | In the national motor museum in Beaulieu there is an Ariel square 4 chop.
( 8< )
The purists hate it.
Just thought you would like to know. |
In its day it must have been quite stylish! That's one of the later ones. My dad had one (not chopped, but with a sidecar on it). |
Dunno how the oil is fed on the Square 4, but with that rake, wouldn't it pool at the back and starve the engine? ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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Previously : CB100N > CB250RS > XJ900F > GT550 > GPZ750R/1000RX > AJS M16 > R100RT > Bullet 500 > CB500 > LS650P > Bullet Electra X & YBR125 > Bullet 350 "Superstar" & YBR125 Custom > Royal Enfield Classic 500 Despatch Limited Edition (28 of 200) & CB Two-Fifty Nighthawk > ER5 |
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Posted: 13:40 - 14 Nov 2018 Post subject: Re: BCF members opinions on choppers |
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Posted: 14:38 - 14 Nov 2018 Post subject: Re: BCF members opinions on choppers |
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Quote: | he's had it since 1986. The engine is well poked, the frame is stiff and the geometry has been well thought out so it handles. |
Maybe compared to cheap bikes available in 1986.
Compared to a cheap bike now - it handles terrible and is really slow, I bet.
(Often see A G/J ZX6 come up for around £1k or below (or C/E ZX9R) - from about £750 for a tatty one - will get to 60 in 3 seconds and keep going to nigh-on 160mph, brakes will lift the rear at 130mph if they are kept in good nick and handling is very reasonable for road use.)
If handling is improved by removing rear suspension, it does rather show the failings of the original design. |
There is a certain degree of rider factor too, I do know if you take outright speed out of the equation on a twisty b-road, I really struggle to keep up with that bike, even on my VFR. However, those uncle bunt frames were always well regarded.
The bike has full rear suspension, and it's adjustable for compression and rebound preload, there is a seperate spring for each. It's just not conventional. There is an absolutely minimal amount of frame flex and no swingarm. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 164 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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