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Posted: 00:46 - 28 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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His conviction and sentence send out the message that the police will not tolerate the mind-set Gardner seems to have adopted - that the casual use of a knife is justified to settle even minor difference
What utter crap.
Kidnapped and forced to work for a gang - yeah right
and what happened to compulsory prison sentences for carrying knives.
https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years in prison and an unlimited fine. You’ll get a prison sentence if you’re convicted of carrying a knife more than once.
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Wise up? Nobody except possibly his Defence said he was a 'victim of society'. What do I need to 'wise up' about? ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Riejufixing wrote: | The main reasons he got what many consider to be a light sentence is because at the time he was 17, |
And how does that give immunity from the law?
Riejufixing wrote: | he did not actually physically harm the other party |
Only because the other party was in a metal car and drove off then got out and ran like the clappers.
Riejufixing wrote: | ; he'd also been on remand for 6 months. |
Was that for mugging someone at knifepoint by any chance? He's had his chance, Dindi dindunit again.
Riejufixing wrote: | The sentence seems to be reasonable considering guidelines and similar cases. Don't blame the judge. Blame guidelines and governments. |
On what planet is the second offence for going at someone with a knife not a prison sentence and the feeble bullshit excuse taken seriously?
It might be reasonable to you, it's not for most people in the real world. The very people the law is supposed to protect from scumbags like this. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Posted: 14:09 - 28 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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Mdf, if you recall I agreed with you, and said he should have been sent down.
In what way does this constitute 'Believing the judge's reasoning for letting him off'?
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Posted: 14:11 - 28 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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What I disagreed with you about was the way you twisted it to infer that the Judge let him off because they both have darker skin than you, and that some form of box-ticking exercise was employed. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Mdf we can all see what Riejufixing wrote. We can all see the context and that there was no full stop between 'reasonable' and 'considering'.
If you want your views to be treated with any seriousness, you mustn't misquote other people. You have let Riejufixing down, this forum down but worst of all you have let yourself down. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Posted: 16:15 - 28 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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Well, having watched the video again, I was interested to see this person stop and look into the car before the attack, and before the car moved.
At the time, it was reported:
"In video captured on a dash cam, a man on a bike is seen riding up a busy high street when a parked car pulls out quickly, nearly colliding with him. The man jumps off his bike to avoid a collision, dropping it in the middle of the street, and runs after the blue Volkswagen which quickly comes to a halt" ("Independent" (sic) )
Which does seem to be quite wrong.
Now, it's reported that:
"On 30 May, a 19-year-old man was sitting in a car on London Road when Gardner pulled up alongside him on a bike, the Met Police said. The man tried to drive off and almost made contact with Gardner's bike which led to him to attack the car and smash the passenger window with the large knife." ("BBC").
The sentence has now been referred to the Attorney General's office, which will give a reply within 28 days.
I wouldn't mind seeing Judge Dhir's summing up and sentencing remarks when they're published. |
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Posted: 16:46 - 28 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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Riejufixing wrote: | he did not actually physically harm the other party. |
https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/facepalm.gif
I guess had he got to the guy he'd have threatened him then been on his way. This is why London is so f**ked up, muggers carry knives, hold up countless people and then when they eventually stab someone the police take an interest. Knowing the police's attitude towards robberies, he (very) likely robbed countless kids before getting caught over that schoolboy.
Riejufixing wrote: | Well, having watched the video again, I was interested to see this person stop and look into the car before the attack, and before the car moved.
At the time, it was reported:
"In video captured on a dash cam, a man on a bike is seen riding up a busy high street when a parked car pulls out quickly, nearly colliding with him. The man jumps off his bike to avoid a collision, dropping it in the middle of the street, and runs after the blue Volkswagen which quickly comes to a halt" ("Independent" (sic) )
Which does seem to be quite wrong.
Now, it's reported that:
"On 30 May, a 19-year-old man was sitting in a car on London Road when Gardner pulled up alongside him on a bike, the Met Police said. The man tried to drive off and almost made contact with Gardner's bike which led to him to attack the car and smash the passenger window with the large knife." ("BBC").
The sentence has now been referred to the Attorney General's office, which will give a reply within 28 days.
I wouldn't mind seeing Judge Dhir's summing up and sentencing remarks when they're published. |
I'm fairly certain 99.9% of people knew it was targeted. Despite there being some fairly militant cyclists, they don't normally carry zombie knives. |
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It was a comment on law around the case. Learn to read. |
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Riejufixing wrote: | mpd72 CPT wrote: | I'd love to know what these mystical guidelines and similar cases are |
If you could learn to use the internet, and read, you could find out for yourself. |
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*START* there . Guidelines are just that. Until you know exactly what was taken into account... ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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I read a fair bit of stuff last night until I was...
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...and I have to say everything pointed to a custodial sentence for dindu. It's somewhat baffling that we watched a human being trying to kill another human being and said human being is still walking the streets.
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Riejufixing wrote: | Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote: | *START* there . Guidelines are just that. Until you know exactly what was taken into account... |
There's rather more to it; "This guideline should be read alongside the Overarching Principles – Sentencing Children and Young People", for instance, in the referenced document; also the nature of the charges, in this case: affray, possession of an offensive weapon, and attempting to cause grievous bodily harm with intent.
I think I'll wait until the court documents are available, which shouldn't be long. |
Name these similar cases or show me the exact guidelines confirming your made up assumption.
Come on, unless you can show us them, they don't exist anywhere but in your head and were just a tool to try to backup your insane justification over the result of this case.
I want to see these cases and the exact guidelines you've allegedly seen, not just a suggestion to Google "Reijuwont fix magic unicorn shit".
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 151 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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