A practical performance car.

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[Polarbear]

Rather than start a new thread.....

Looking at a JAGUAR XF 2.2 D PORTFOLIO SPORTBRAKE 5d AUTO

Cost £15395.00 from a big second hand car firm.

https://www.saxonbridge.com/used-jaguar-xf-milton-keynes-buckinghamshire-1643295

Now this is literally 5 minutes from me and I can go have a test drive.

So comments on the car please? A bit over priced (for a dealer)?

and what should I offer bearing in mind it is cash I'd be paying. I never know how low to bid without looking stupid.
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[grr666]

That's about the same as I'm looking to spend on our next car. I'm after space first, comfort/toys second and performance
a distant third. What I won't buy is another diesel. The car in your link is already 3 years too old to drive in Bath without
paying a (proposed) daily emissions charge of just under a tenner (to begin with). Their charging thresholds without
getting into all the Euro III IV & V and so on for that seems to be about 2015 with diesel vehicles and 2006 for
petrol engined cars. My van is a 2012 and that will mean I have to pay if I use it to go into Bath. I know that's possibly
not an issue where you live but they will be bringing this shite in everywhere sooner or later so it's worth considering.
Diesel pollutants are the big terrible enemy at the mo. I wouldn't put a massive RFL hike on derv vehicles past them either
given the way they like to target the motorist for revenue and knee jerk new rules in the way they do. I'd expect the cost
of diesel to rise sharply soon also to further discourage it's usage. My next van when I'm done with the Transit will be petrol too.
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[duhawkz]

you'll be lucky if you can get a dealer to shift much on price, especially with cash. They make more money on the finance deals as they get either get a kick back from the finance company or the bigger dealers do their own finance so they make on the interest.

we'll that's been my experience with the last 2 cars I've bought, one wouldn't shift at all on anything to do with part ex or the price of the car but reduced an extended warranty by 2/3, the second haggled a bit on the part ex price for my car. both were cash.
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[Jewlio Rides Again LLB]

Re finance, can't it be beneficial to haggle down the price, then pay it off in one lump, providing no huge early repayment penalties etc?

Or does haggling down on the presumption that you're gong to take finance, then pay cash anyway, actually work?
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[duhawkz]

I suspect it's probably never going to work out cheaper to arrange finance then pay it off straight away, due to all fees.

I asked if there was a early repayment he said there wasn't but you would still have to pay the interest, i think the interest was 4.6%

If it was 0% I might have been tempted to do that then stick the cash in a savings account or something.
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[Polarbear]

I had a horrible feeling that would be the consensus. Cash is not king anymore.

I'll try it on though, maybe they would rather shift something between Christmas and new year rather than sit on their fannys getting fuck all in.

Another local company have this

https://www.wvsgroup.com/used-jaguar-xf-bletchley,-milton-keynes-buckinghamshire-1719597

Newer, V6 but done 80thou miles.

Maybe play one off against the other.
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[duhawkz]

Do you do the mileage to warrant getting a diesel?
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[Polarbear]

[grr666]

Do you want to risk being labelled an eco bastard and ending up with a worthless paperweight that cost you 15 grand?

True story, My mate bought a Sprinter with a luton body with his redundancy money some years ago, he was a
plastererpreviously. Living just inside the M25 he set about earning his money delivering kitchens with it. He had a baby
to feed and a mortgage to pay, his van literally was his bread and butter. Then the LEZ rules came in. Lost his job because
he had to sell his van. Sold his van to some indian chap from up north for literally a couple of hundred quid.
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[duhawkz]

Short journeys wont do the dpf any good and they are usually ££££ to replace.

Also diesels have gone from been the king to the enemy of everything.

https://www.whatcar.com/advice/buying/should-i-buy-a-diesel-car-everything-you-need-to-know/n1189
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[Polarbear]

[duhawkz]

The father in law bought a diesel a couple of years ago with looking into things and only used it for triping into town and back (~3 miles maybe) with in a couple of months there were warning lights on the dashboard

I tried the usual things like a good blast down the motorway but it was fooked, luckily the dealer he got it off fixed under warranty but it would have been ~£1000.

My mate was quoted ~£1300 for his replacing, they are generally considered a service item. Also my mate commuted in his on the motorway.
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[duhawkz]

I think thats a bit more then a just a remap
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[duhawkz]

what a about this

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201810201669514?sort=sponsored&make=JAGUAR&model=XF&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=mk125rs&fuel-type=Petrol&radius=1501&page=1

or some supercharged 500hp yummy goodness

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201811122344440?sort=sponsored&make=JAGUAR&model=XF&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=mk125rs&fuel-type=Petrol&radius=1501&page=1

both petrol
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[grr666]

I prefer the first one. Flasher than a rat with a gold tooth.
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[duhawkz]

or get yer sen' a bently

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201803144559322?sort=sponsored&make=BENTLEY&price-from=10000&price-to=16000&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=mk125rs&fuel-type=Petrol&advertising-location=at_cars&radius=1500&page=1
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[Polarbear]

I like the first as well!

Question - Why does it cost so much to change a DPF?
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[grr666]

First in part, because sooner or later you will have to replace them, they are a filter after all. While they can
be cleaned this will only elongate the service life, if it's done properly this process can be pretty expensive too. Still a fraction
of the cost of buying a new one though. Also I believe there are precious metals used in their construction, I suppose
because the one on my Sprinter was such a physically large unit, it cost more to produce? Maybe it was just because
it was a Merc part although I found it their commercial service parts were very well priced on the whole.
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[duhawkz]

As grr666 says its down to their construction, but also its illegal to drive round without one, and they're inspected as part of the MOT to make sure they haven't been tampered with. So they've got a captive market which won't help things either.

If you're intent on getting a diesel you could look at older cars, DPF's are mandatory on all vehicles after 2009, but some manufacturers started fitting them around 2007. With bit of research you might be able something tidy around 06/07 sans DPF.

But you'll still get sodomised with the ulez charges and higher taxes on diesels. In a couple of years you won't be able to give diesels away
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