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Posted: 15:30 - 28 Nov 2018 Post subject: Compulsory access to kids |
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Right, let me first say I don't want this to turn into another Paki sex crime thread. It's the principle I am angry with.
According to the radio today, one of the Rotherham girls who was raped and got pregnant is being forced by Rotherham social services to allow her kid to be seen by the father, the bloke who raped her, despite the fact he is serving 35 years for child abuse.
She also said she cannot get her kid a passport or take him out of the country without the permission of the father, the rapist.
Pretty disgusting in my eyes and for Rotherham social services who failed her so badly in the past to force this on her is horrifying.
Will get a link when I find one but I heard it on the Jeremy Vine radio 2 programme just now.
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https://news.sky.com/story/sammy-woodhouse-rotherham-rapist-arshid-hussain-told-he-could-see-victims-son-11565791
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I read this article this morning and I agree with you Polarbear. He shouldn't have any legal rights towards the child nor should his consent be required for anything because he is a rapist serving a 35 year sentence so cannot exercise any corresponding responsibility. The fact that he is the biological father should be an irrelevance given the circumstances, and the poor mother and child shouldn't have to consider him in anything they do.
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I'm sure all paedophile rapists get the same access to the product of their crime. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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She should go in to visit him and walk down the line telling all the other inmates being visited what he did. Hopefully there wouldn't be anyone to ask permission of soon after. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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They will... How how he is protected depends on the individual prison, but chances are he is on a 'nonce-wing' already rather than in the general population.
Here are some interesting facts. According to the Howard League for Penal reform, one in six male adult prisoners in this country are convicted sex-offenders. According to 'statistics', one in seven male adult prisoners in this country are Muslims, this despite the fact that in 2014 Muslims only represented 4.7% of the population of England and Wales.
What does this tell us? It tells us that our prisons are full of sex-offenders, and that adult Muslim males make up a disproportionately large percentage of our prison population.
Why is this relevant? It isn't, because I couldn't find any statistics to suggest that a disproportionate percentage of Muslim males are convicted sex-offenders, despite a higher percentage of them 'going through the system' than adult male WASPs.
Now, if one is to argue that it stands to reason to expect a higher percentage of Muslim sex-offenders in our prisons, then doesn't it also suggest that the plod are catching them and our courts are doing the job they are supposed to?
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Well, there's the rub.... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Posted: 22:23 - 28 Nov 2018 Post subject: Re: Compulsory access to kids |
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Polarbear wrote: |
According to the radio today, one of the Rotherham girls who was raped and got pregnant is being forced by Rotherham social services to allow her kid to be seen by the father, the bloke who raped her, despite the fact he is serving 35 years for child abuse.
She also said she cannot get her kid a passport or take him out of the country without the permission of the father, the rapist.
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I'd say its bollocks, there must be more to the story or the girl has a serious low IQ and other people are involved.
I know for a fact a mother can receive a passport for a child without the father permission and can take them out of the country whereas a dad has to ask permission or take it to court. I know this from my own experience.
I also know for a fact you can't force a mother to allow access to your child without a court order and parental rights, even with a court order and PR you would have to repeatedly go back to court to enforce visitation which cost a small fortune, even if the mother allows access she can stop it a week later and back to court you go. I know this from my own experience.
With forcing kid visits, the nonce(dad) is still viewed as the dad by the courts but mum can kick up a massive fuss about rapist/prison visits etc. And it would never happen.
I know this as my wife's best friends ex(twat) was done for robbing an old lady and got 2 years, at the time of sentencing she had just given birth and wanted nothing to do with him for the above reasons. He tried in court but failed to get her to bring the child to visit him. On release he went to court and forced supervised visits because he is the dad, after 2 visits he stopped showing up and visits got cancelled.
all of the above is over 10 years ago so things may have madly changed. |
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Back in the day I put a block on my ex-wife taking our son out of the country. It was a simple (free) process and was done around 16 years ago.
I've just checked and the rules have changed slightly - seems they've placed more hurdles in the way but it can still be done.
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Posted: 12:16 - 29 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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The courts and gaols cannot do anything to prevent this.
A cure has to be started long before it gets this far along.
There are cultures that are toxic to 'modern' civilised society.
Religion is the fundamental driving force spreading this poison.
And it starts at birth, by design. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 147 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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