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PostPosted: 15:03 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
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The courts and gaols cannot do anything to prevent this.
They can, and they do.

Absolutely they do. Social Services were at fault in this case.
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Absolutely they do. Social Services were at fault in this case.


I only skim read, but didn't the article say 'could seek access', not 'will get access'?

There is a difference.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a question then...

If she had decided to have an abortion, Would he have to be told? Could he have stopped it?

or do his rights only kick in when the kid is born?
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The punishment is never the better deterrent.

Prevention is the answer.

Lock a 1000 paedos up and the vacuum created will be filled with stealth.
Locking them up is not changing anything.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Here's a question then...

If she had decided to have an abortion, could he have stopped it?


No.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
The punishment is never the better deterrent.

Prevention is the answer.

Lock a 1000 paedos up and the vacuum created will be filled with stealth.
Locking them up is not changing anything.


Hang them then? I'd go with that Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
The punishment is never the better deterrent.

Prevention is the answer.

Lock a 1000 paedos up and the vacuum created will be filled with stealth.
Locking them up is not changing anything.


Seriously, that is the most stupid statement I have heard on here for days.

Lock up 1000 pedos and you will create another 1000 to take their place?

What utter drivel.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Here's a question then...

If she had decided to have an abortion, Would he have to be told? Could he have stopped it?

or do his rights only kick in when the kid is born?

No one has to be told and the father can't stop it.

"In 1987 and 2001 men attempted in the UK courts to prevent their former partners having abortions; they failed"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/abortion/legal/fathers.shtml
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than incarceration or death, the only way to stop a paedophile is for that paedophile to realise that his/her actions are wrong and to realign their conscience with the rest of society.

This is tried in prisons, and the end result is usually failure plus trauma for the Officers involved.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Other than incarceration or death, the only way to stop a paedophile is for that paedophile to realise that his/her actions are wrong and to realign their conscience with the rest of society.

This is tried in prisons, and the end result is usually failure plus trauma for the Officers involved.


Chemical or actual castration?
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Castration doesn't work apparently because an element of the pleasure is derived from power and inflicting pain rather than sex.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a shitter, but paedophilia is one of those things that has been considered within the bounds of acceptability in certain societies, as for example has marrying one's sister and shagging choirboys. None of these things are acceptable to the majority of us in the UK now, but all have been somewhere in the world and probably are still.

Because of this, certain paedophile organisations are pushing for their particular deviance to be added to the LGBTQXYZ list of recognised marginalised groups with rights.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
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Absolutely they do. Social Services were at fault in this case.
I only skim read, but didn't the article say 'could seek access', not 'will get access'?

There is a difference.


The SS approached yon chappie to invite him to make an application for parental rights instead of applying to the court to exclude him from proceedings. Their fault.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mgm no it doesn't. A person is a paedophile irrespective of religion.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two separate issues here. Paedophilia and abuse.

If you are taking it purely on an underage thing then MPD is right, there are a lot of cultures that do not regard sex with what we would call minors as wrong. They are not paedophiles.

As such the grooming gangs which targetted teenagers I would classify as abusers rather than paedophiles.

However it must be culturally acceptable to them because there were brothers and cousins in the gangs. If I went to my brother and said I had a teenage paki girl he could shag he'd be onto the police before I could blink because he doesn't regard it as acceptable.

It's the same sort of thing as FGM. The people know it's illegal but it doesn't stop the practice.

A pedo, to me is someone who can't control his urges, knows what he does is wrong but can't stop. Usually a family member and known to the victim. I would also hazard a guess would go for younger victims than the groomers.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:

Chemical or actual castration?


They should all be put on medication for metal health as they are clearly mentally ill.

A relative of mine was put on a type of medication for a psychotic episode that shrunk his genitals to half their normal size and killed his sex drive along with a load of other side effects, they would do the trick with pedos
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
There are two separate issues here. Paedophilia and abuse.

If you are taking it purely on an underage thing then MPD is right, there are a lot of cultures that do not regard sex with what we would call minors as wrong. They are not paedophiles.

As such the grooming gangs which targetted teenagers I would classify as abusers rather than paedophiles.

However it must be culturally acceptable to them because there were brothers and cousins in the gangs. If I went to my brother and said I had a teenage paki girl he could shag he'd be onto the police before I could blink because he doesn't regard it as acceptable.

It's the same sort of thing as FGM. The people know it's illegal but it doesn't stop the practice.

A pedo, to me is someone who can't control his urges, knows what he does is wrong but can't stop. Usually a family member and known to the victim. I would also hazard a guess would go for younger victims than the groomers.

I believe pedophile applies to young children (under 13?), we just apply it to other types, such as infantophiles and the other category for teenagers under 16 (I'm too scared to google it Smile).

Personally I'd give anyone abusing a child under 13 the death penalty. The only reason why I wouldn't apply that to under 16 is you get into a grey area, when (for example) a 17yr old mate of mine lost his cherry to a girl who said she was 16 (she was 15).

Also Asian cultures don't seem to see large age gaps as an issue. A (Muslim) friend at school had a mum who was in her early 30s and dad in his 50s, and his sister was 16 Confused We'd probably Eh? at that kind of age gap although obviously it does happen.
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
MCN wrote:
The punishment is never the better deterrent.

Prevention is the answer.

Lock a 1000 paedos up and the vacuum created will be filled with stealth.
Locking them up is not changing anything.


Seriously, that is the most stupid statement I have heard on here for days.

Lock up 1000 pedos and you will create another 1000 to take their place?

What utter drivel.


And you are the authority on it?

Are you one who stupidly believes that jail prevents crime?

I have a revelation for you Sonny Jim.
It is not the punishment that is the deterrent.
It is getting caught that really prevents crime.
Maybe you'd learn something if you study western criminal justice system.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
MCN wrote:
The punishment is never the better deterrent.

Prevention is the answer.

Lock a 1000 paedos up and the vacuum created will be filled with stealth.
Locking them up is not changing anything.


Hang them then? I'd go with that Thumbs Up


FFS have you got the blinders on?

It's not the ones who get caught who use stealth it's the ones who are still at large who go 'underground'.

They have always kept there bent hidden away from decency but they can hide easily now a days.
Detection rates only show the surface of the problem.
And it's not only Pakis who are paedos.
The Catholic Church condones it to this day.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bollocks, locking up criminals stops them offending.

Of course jail prevents crime. If you are in jail you can't commit crime (except against other criminals and I couldn't care less about them).

Pedos will offend because they have the urge to do so. The threat of prison won't stop them. Being in there will.
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
There are two separate issues here. Paedophilia and abuse.

If you are taking it purely on an underage thing then MPD is right, there are a lot of cultures that do not regard sex with what we would call minors as wrong. They are not paedophiles.


Here, paedophilia seems to be pre-pubescent children.

Re "underage", even in EU countries, it depends on where you live, and to some extent how old you are.

I looked it up on t'internet. There's proabably an alarm going off sommewhere....
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 29 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
There are two separate issues here. Paedophilia and abuse.

If you are taking it purely on an underage thing then MPD is right, there are a lot of cultures that do not regard sex with what we would call minors as wrong. They are not paedophiles.

As such the grooming gangs which targetted teenagers I would classify as abusers rather than paedophiles.

However it must be culturally acceptable to them because there were brothers and cousins in the gangs. If I went to my brother and said I had a teenage paki girl he could shag he'd be onto the police before I could blink because he doesn't regard it as acceptable.

It's the same sort of thing as FGM. The people know it's illegal but it doesn't stop the practice.

A pedo, to me is someone who can't control his urges, knows what he does is wrong but can't stop. Usually a family member and known to the victim. I would also hazard a guess would go for younger victims than the groomers.


Thank heaven we have people with sober opinions to moderate the ones with opinions like yours.

You do not even know what paedophile actually means.

I'm sure you know how to work the Internet. Search for paedophile and fill your boots.
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