CBF600N P38 2006 Winterize Question

dsg10715 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 29 Dec 2017 Karma :

Gents (and Ladies) I am tearing my hair out trying to find the petcock or fuel tap on my bike, a CBF600 2006, in preparations for winterizing. I know where to drain the carbs, but Ive read I should turn the fuel tap off.

Does anyone have any advice on what I am missing or doing wrong?

First bike so learning a lot but the Haynes is leaving me befuddled.

ThunderGuts · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Nov 2018 Karma :

If you follow the fuel lines from the carb back to the tank, it’ll be the first thing you come to. Should have a rotating tap on it. They’re quite small, about the size of a matchbox
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jaffa90 · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Apr 2016 Karma :

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBF600-N-S-2004-to-2007-Fuel-Vacuum-Tap-J8/183116127907?hash=item2aa2925ea3:g:2m4AAOSwdbxaoWWd:rk:1:pf:0
Looks like yours has a vacuum operated tap so fuel should not flow when draining the carbs.
If fuel does not stop flowing the tap is faulty.

Nobby the Bastard · Harley Gaydar Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :

Fowlers parts say it doesn't have a traditional rotating fuel tap. Not all bikes do.

https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4800303/cbf600n6-2006-e-spc/fuel-tank-cbf600n6na6
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dsg10715 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 29 Dec 2017 Karma :

Thanks all, so it looks like I dont need to turn off. Fuel tap for winter and just drain the carbs.

Sorry for late reply, for some reason I didnt get the alert

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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

I wouldn’t drain the carbs, i’d Just buy some fuel stabiliser and put that in, then run the engine for a bit otherwise the carb seals can dry out.
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MCN · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Karma :

Not winterizing. Probably Hibernating.
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dsg10715 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 29 Dec 2017 Karma :

Just winterizing. The Haynes says to drain the carbs if you are putting it away for a while. Probably 2-3 months given Berlin winter. Seems an easy process, is there a reason draining the carbs is not a good idea?

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dsg10715 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 29 Dec 2017 Karma :

Ah got it. But I cannot online or in the Haynes for the life of me find the petrol cock on the CBF model. Another poster indicated on this model, the P38, I didnt have to turn off the fuel as it was a vacuum?

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dsg10715 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 29 Dec 2017 Karma :

Still learning! So, i obviously just need to drain the carbs so the fuel deposit doesnt solidify in them and thats that ?

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Put the bike in your garage and then get it out again in spring. Job done.

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dsg10715 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 29 Dec 2017 Karma :

Dude, Haynes says drain the carbs. My mechanic says drain them. Why do you say i should NOT drain them

jaffa90 · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Apr 2016 Karma :

Why not drain the carbs (they may have some crap in them?)and then add a fuel stabiliser give the bike a shake and run the engine.
I use LUCAS FUEL STABILIZER .

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

dsg10715 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 29 Dec 2017 Karma :

I ride it 30 min a day on average

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dsg10715 · Derestricted Danger Joined: 29 Dec 2017 Karma :

Ah, no Marjay. English is my mother tongue and have the graduate degree to prove I can deploy it. One might argue if you read through everything that there are competing viewpoints presented here.

Whilst one argues that winterizing doesnt refer to storing it (although you will find well heeled moto journals like Revilla, Ari Henning et al do use the term winterizing not to denote preparing to ride through snow but rather to not ride at all while winter is upon us) lets spot the poster with the alternate definition of winterizing and call it storing.

Alerting the poster with the dyno-never-ride-it-bike-carb cleaning job for three years- to the fact that I do ride it regularly; so that particular tale might not be pertinent to this discussion which I initiated.

Similarly, perhaps the Haynes is referring to a lesser grade of gasoline as another poster maintains, and thus their exhortation to drain the carbs might be antiquated, I am trying to reconcile the advice of some to drain the carbs (like my mechanic Box 44 in Berlin) with others who say dont drain them.

At any rate, throughout this thread opposing viewpoints are being professed as the absolute right way.

That, and not the Kings, is what I am slightly confused about.

MCN · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Jul 2015 Karma :

I understood the primary reason for draining carbs before storage is just to eliminate the chance of a leaking float allowing the tank to drain into the sump.
The additional effect of that would be washing lubricant off the cylinder wall/s and rings exposing the surfaces to moisture in the air resulting in rust.

Modern bikes don't have a pet-cock and use a vac-valve or electrically operated solenoid valve.

Petrol will degrade if stored for long enough or if it is allowed to evaporate. (Not all the product evaporates leaving residue.
As far as I have actual experience of 'storage I brim the tank, connect a ctek charger and you a bike cover over the cnut. (Might put a chain on it too.)

If you are putting away for months and months then there is a very detailed process to 'moth-ball' a bike.
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