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| What type of Brexit do you want? |
| No Deal, properly leave. |
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66% |
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| May's Leave in name only deal. |
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1% |
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| Let the EU and establishment keep us in the EU |
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25% |
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| Other. (Specify) |
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6% |
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| panrider_uk wrote: | | RhynoCZ wrote: | No ''Norway model'' type of solution? I am surprised.  |
That would switch the ECJ to the EFTA courts holding sway over us.
We'd have to keep free movement of people and keep contributing money.
So not really Brexit. |
I'm not sure who was it, but some woman from the UK gov. suggested this kind of ''deal''. Which, as I was saying several times before, would be a kick in the knob for all the Brexiters, as Norway is a ''addressee'' of all the EU regulation (regarding the EU policies), they also contribute quite a lot of money (as you've pointed out) and they have no say in any of the EU regulation/legislation. Norway does what EU says, no questions asked.
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| Posted: 17:40 - 11 Dec 2018 Post subject: |
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| M.C wrote: | No it really isn't. |
So the origin or bias of an idea that is being challenged to which I'm countering the challenge is important to the validity or soundness of said idea or of the following:
| mpd72 CPT wrote: | It's only meaningless to you because it doesn't backup the remain agenda, that all leave voters want a deal. |
Me - Wrong, the fact you think it is representative of anything undermines the credibility of anything you say pure and simple but carry on, it's a good show.
MPD - It's at the top of the page pal. I know you won't accept it because it doesn't agree with your infallible agenda and proves you wrong, but I seriously doubt this forum is that far from the public as a whole, that Remoan claims of 15% wanting no deal Brexit are actually 75%.
All the other polls on here regarding Brexit were almost spot on with how the vote went, so why does this one not hold water with you?
Me - A tiny forum poll where the respondents are predominantly hard brexiteers as they are the only ones still engaging in this BS here is representative of a whole swathe of voters
Cos context?
Firstly if you want context you have to use the whole quote and not just bold something to infer something else which to be frank, I have still no idea what you are even getting at so do enlighten me?
If your knickers twisted cos I said this forum debate is BS, well it is lol. You do realise at this point these threads are probably considered a bit toxic to some on the forum who won't get involved anyway? Are you saying it is mainly remainers commentating? What are you saying?
Make an argument.
| M.C wrote: | How is it? They've called the last 3 elections/referendums in this country wrong, which shows any sample's rubbish. Like those stupid averts on the TV, 90% of people agreed yadayada based on a sample of 89 people. |
Once again bottom talk, no data and has sweet FA to do with the question I put your way. Did you understand the question or is your tactic to throw mud or muddy the waters? I'm wondering not at this point due to the first counter above I'm having to break down. It is ok if you do not want to answer the question you realise? And just for the kicks, your seemingly random arguments also seem to be throwing MPDs points under the bus which is pretty funny.
| M.C wrote: | If I had to put money on it I'd say a remainer but I can't specifically remember. |
Save your time but guess what, even if I was, it has no reflection on the validity or soundness of any argument I present.
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| Posted: 18:19 - 11 Dec 2018 Post subject: |
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| Sload wrote: |
So the origin or bias of an idea that is being challenged to which I'm countering the challenge is important to the validity or soundness of said idea or of the following: |
For probably the only time in MPDs entire life he's involved in an argument he didn't start, it's important to acknowledge this fact 
| Sload wrote: | | M.C wrote: | How is it? They've called the last 3 elections/referendums in this country wrong, which shows any sample's rubbish. Like those stupid averts on the TV, 90% of people agreed yadayada based on a sample of 89 people. |
Once again bottom talk, no data and has sweet FA to do with the question I put your way. Did you understand the question or is your tactic to throw mud or muddy the waters? I'm wondering not at this point due to the first counter above I'm having to break down. It is ok if you do not want to answer the question you realise? And just for the kicks, your seemingly random arguments also seem to be throwing MPDs points under the bus which is pretty funny. |
What question am I not answering? I've said twice now using BCF as a sample's as good as any other BS sample. The data is out there, 2 elections, one referendum, and an election for the largest economy all called wrong. In case you haven't realised that's why the 'establishment' are scared, the peasant folk aren't predictable anymore.
| Sload wrote: | | M.C wrote: | If I had to put money on it I'd say a remainer but I can't specifically remember. |
Save your time but guess what, even if I was, it has no reflection on the validity or soundness of any argument I present. |
So my guess was correct? |
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| Posted: 18:44 - 11 Dec 2018 Post subject: |
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| M.C wrote: | For probably the only time in MPDs entire life he's involved in an argument he didn't start, it's important to acknowledge this fact |
Ok I'll accept that, not that it changes anything, as long as you accept when you make claims, it's fair to challenge (as you in fact did to me).
| M.C wrote: | I've said twice now using BCF as a sample's as good as any other BS sample. The data is out there, 2 elections, one referendum, and an election for the largest economy all called wrong. |
I might disagree on the validity and value of polling but I'll accept that you are stating polls are wrong and you do not trust them, meaning you likely disagree with MPDs assertion as well to be fair. As I stated, I'm not really too bothered.
| M.C wrote: | So my guess was correct? |
Not really, Ideologically I'm prolly still more civic nationalist, pragmatically I'm mixed and this is where I like to learn which moves my ideological framework. I asked to get a check on what I portray, which you did so thank you. Not my fault MPD sees reds under the bed everywhere.
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| Riejufixing wrote: | | Sload wrote: | Me - Wrong, the fact you think it is representative of anything undermines the credibility of anything you say pure and simple but carry on, it's a good show. |
it's just a crap poll, indicative of utter incomprehension of the current situation, and what the questions actually mean. So, nothing new, although one would've hoped people... well, never mind. |
Do you want me to start a second poll, so you can gave another chance at not being a loser again? 
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What if you lose that one too?
Best of three? Carry on ignoring democracy until we get your required result?
Seems to be all the rage lately.
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| mpd72 CPT wrote: | Do you want me to start a second poll, so you can gave another chance at not being a loser again? |
I haven't lost anything. I've just stopped arguing with fuckwits.
Excellent result for the PM just now, by the way.
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Do you think that a tory leadership race would have been a benefit right now? |
Yes, it's quite clear that May is preparing the biggest stitch up in history. We're supposed to be leaving in March and she's now kicked the vote on her Remain in all but name stitch up to late January, even though the EU refuse to re-negotiate.
| Monkeywrencher wrote: | I'd have prefered that the Vote had happened on tuesday and given us a position to move forward from. |
So would I, but she knows she'll not get her remain in everything but name deal passed, so took the chance to get it thrown out away.
| Monkeywrencher wrote: | although the EU is saying no more negatiation, that's a position based on the fact we haven't said no to this deal yet, once we have then their position has to be rethought. |
So why is she dragging it out until it'll be too late to do anything else?
Isn't it obvious? We don't want the deal, she does, her cabinet does and so do the EU. Who loses out? She's just making sure it's her 80% Remain deal or nothing.
I think this has been the plan right from the start. All the bullshit she was spouting about "Brexit means Brexit" was just the usual insincere bollocks she's been spouting all along.
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What if you lose that one too?
Best of three? Carry on ignoring democracy until we get your required result?
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I have never lost. 
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