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Posted: 14:48 - 14 Dec 2018 Post subject: |
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As transport? It's risky. High risk groups are young people, those on just a CBT, those on small capacity machines and those returing to riding after a long break.
As an adrenalin sport? It's relatively safe and cheap (see horseriding, skydiving, surfing, sailing). Adv riders and grenelaners are underrepresented in accident statistics.
If you're worried, get training. Get licences, do bikesafe/ERS, join IAM, or pay big monies for offroad riding school.
I used to tool around on private land a bit as a teen and did some had a bit of training, it was loads of fun, I fell off loads but for the most part you bounce on wet mud.
Did Bikesafe when I was on 33bhp licence (pre A2 rules), really helpful, ERS not long after. Trying to IAM in the car (boo, hiss) at the moment but its a bit disorganised and i've been sabotaged by needing to lend car to my mum.
I was 27 when I got off my ass and started road riding. I'd just left achademia and was quite ill. Then the singer in my band headbutted a bus on the way to his shit job at a bank. He survived but that knd of brain damage rewrites your personality. It was the kick up the ass I needed to do a few things whilst i still could. And I'm losing friends to suicide, drugs, type 1 diabetes, cancer. You only live once. Don't live a shit life regretting all the things you didn't do. ____________________ Bandit. does. everything.
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If your worrying about it this much already, maybe biking is not for you, although i do know where your coming from. I had been humming and aarghing for a few years before watching a program and seeing a guy riding round country roads and i thought, "I really want to do that" So the next day i booked my CBT.
3 month later in April 2018, I passed my test, had my full licence and i picked up my MT07 the same day. I don't have 1 single regret about any of it. It's probably the best decision I have ever made, my only regret if any, is that i didn't do it 14 years ago (I'm 32 now).
Most bike accidents from what I've seen on youtube etc, are bikers going too fast, either round corners or too fast in general. If you don't ride like an idiot, watch out for every car pulling out of junctions, roundabouts, don't stay in peoples blindspots on dual carriagways, motorways etc (which i know seems a lot, but you soon get used to watching everyone around you), and you will be absolutely fine. Get used to your bike first, It's far too easy to become over confident far too easy. I did this at a biker cafe with 1000+ bikers watching when i dropped my bike as my partner climbed on the back and i didn't have my side stand down, very embarassing moment but i learn't from it and i will never do that again.
Hope you have made a decision and ride safe. |
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OP Before you get all fecking smart arse with me, i can read and I can understand you pointless question, please understand the friggin variables are the same for all bikes once rider and bike have separated at any speed.. simple physics pal, so no point in pissing comps and scar comparisons is there? Google Guy Martin crashes not that hes the only rider but you can judge for yourself the recovery and the luck and the variables involoved in stacking anything.. my advice is;
Get a 125 on the CBT, commute on A roads, if you still want a "bike" do the DAS when you get you first 600 or vstrom you'll feel safe as houses! Lol
No fecker gets out alive mate, but we've all had days when we "felt" it wasnt our day... some even stay at home.
You can mitigate all the risks in the world, but can't mitigate the risk of a twist.
Adventure bikes, so are you planning on a lot of green lanes and tracks? Because I feel a more roadstar type bikes is better equipped to handle A roads and towns tbh. There is no safer bike, not like cars mate, less mitigation of physics available.
Remember its not the speed you stack this shit its the speed you stop that'll kill you.
Go for it, join a club, generally DAS centres and schools do ride outs and that, a good and well priced bike will not loose value fast, so if you sell give up you'll only loose the cost of you actual kit. Plus you will be able to say i did it but wasnt for me.. better then "I'd love a bike, but im just sooooooooo crazzzy id kill me self"..
A CBT and 125cc plus bit of kit will set you back less then a grand, 500 even if you got biker mates or go really basic. Cost may not be an issue to you but looking good cash should be an issue to all!
You can do you CBT on a schools bike and hire kit, at least you'll get a Day.. be warned though its not much of "real" experiance, but gets you using hands and feet together 👍
Goodluck and stay safe ____________________ ybr125 Sold, GSF600 K1 Bandit (For Sale), FJR13000 gen2. |
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Learn to read.
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Thats so funny, ive been wondering what a teffing meant |
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Posted: 23:57 - 11 Jan 2019 Post subject: Re: Danger! Death! Amputation! Disabilities! Brain damage! |
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rpsmith79 wrote: | Well i can statistically say that 100% of all replies to this thread will be from bikers who have not been killed yet, so by that reasoning, bikes are 100% safe and not going to kill you
/end thread |
LOL I like it!
rider90 wrote: | Learn to read
/open thread |
Wow this guy appears to be arrogant than me. I didn't even know that was possible...
Confusion wrote: | In my experience, motorcyclists, I mean real motorcyclists that actually
own a bike, helmet and a pair of boots don't drink before riding.
Statistics may suggest otherwise, but that is because they count
degenerate scum on stolen bikes as "motorcyclists". |
Love it. Nice use of one of my most favourite phrases! Degenerate scum.
All the animals come out at night. Whores, skunk-pussies, buggers, queens, fairies, dopers, junkies. Sick, venal. Someday a real rain'll come and wash all this scum off the streets.
Listen, you fuckers, you screwheads. Here is a man who would not take it anymore. A man who stood up against the scum, the cunts, the dogs, the filth, the shit. Here is a man who stood up.
Johanna wrote: | In one year I've never had so many near accidents, but I've learned something from each one. I'm sure I'll fall off at some point but I love riding my bike. You can't spend all day worrying about what might happen. Just deal with it if it does happen. |
Couldn't agree more. Your road awareness and perceptiveness and ability to predict what other road users are about to do and how to react in a sticky situation will improve with time and experience. If you're worried, just take it easy and don't go loony. Also high viz gear can never be a bad thing. Maybe go for a taller bike like an ADV to give you a bigger road-presence? Just a suggestion.
M.C wrote: | I think a lot of bikers start from a position of ignorance (that it'll never happen to them) |
That'll be me.
M.C wrote: | I wouldn't want anyone I care about riding one |
Couldn't agree more. Only let my son get a 50cc out of a sense of being a hypocrite.
talkToTheHat wrote: | It means I'll visit my mum or friends given the slightest excuse, becasue it's an excuse for a ride. Needed some artists' paintbrushes yesterday. Cost me a tank of fuel. |
Same as. Any excuse to jump on the good old YBR! I'm hoping when I get a bigger bike I'll start meeting up with my Dad in Cambridge for the football on a weekly basis like I always used to but gave up because I got sick of sitting on the M25 and Dartford Crossing on a Saturday afternoon. Cambridge united season ticket holder, for my sins.
Jamieking86 wrote: | If your worrying about it this much already, maybe biking is not for you |
I agree. I hear this a lot from people in their thirties plus who never got round to doing their car licence. "I want to learn to drive and I've had a few lessons but it makes me nervous and I'm not confident". One of my mates even got his licence, got a car and never drove it because he was petrified of driving on his own without someone watching over him. We probably don't need nervous people on our roads, there's already enough incompetence out there with people who think they're good when they're anything but. Having said that, it wouldn't hurt to just do your CBT and get on a 125 and see how you like it. If it nerves and worries you, it's probably not for you. You may find you quite like it and all those anxieties go away, in which case great, don't worry about it.
Jamieking86 wrote: | If you don't ride like an idiot, watch out for every car pulling out of junctions, roundabouts, don't stay in peoples blindspots on dual carriagways, motorways etc (which i know seems a lot, but you soon get used to watching everyone around you), and you will be absolutely fine |
I second that. Just take it easy and ease into it gently starting out on a 125, if you like it and have the confidence try moving up to a 250 or a 400 or something? Personally I think if you get on a bike most of your worries and anxieties about the danger will fade away. If they don't, you may need to re-think it but at least you can say you gave it a go!
Lo-Fi wrote: | If brain damage and death is something that worries you then I suggest motorbikes aren't for you and you should take up something safer - like knitting. |
Perish the thought, those knitting needles are fucking dangerous. Have you seen them???!!!
biker7 wrote: | Still, better to have ridden and crashed than not ridden at all. |
Wise words. I'm gonna have to remember that to spout at all those people who tell me I'm crazy for getting a bike. Might make me sound very wise and sage which can only be a good thing to mask the incredible ignorance I usually purvey.
Couldn't be bothered to read Teff's message, he puts my essays to shame! ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Also would like to mention just for good measure, to answer your original question sincerely. A motorcycle in the hand of a MALE under the age of 21, preferably 25 or even 30, is a rank bad idea and you're guaranteed to kill yourself. I'm glad I waited until my 30s cos I know what I was like back then. ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 105 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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