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Should Britain really leave the EU? |
Remain in the EU |
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Theresa May's version of remaining in the EU |
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Write "Leave the EU" on the ballot paper |
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Skudd wrote: | The basics should have been, no matter what the result, stay or leave, we all get behind that result and get the best deal for us. What has ended up being is that the remoaners are still trying to undo the result, and those that went for leave are battling each other to be top dog and not to get the best for us. |
The Remainers and antidemocrats are the biggest problems, generally, not just for this exercise. I hear that Bliar's sticking his oar in again for "a people's vote" (yes, we've had one).
I was chatting to my MP, and made the comparison between what's happening now, and a football match, in which our team's about to score the winning goal, but half our supporters are cheering for the opposite team, and half our team are trying to tackle our own centre forward, while the goal's left open, and the opposition need not do anything as they fall around with laughter. It seems a reasonable comparison. |
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Can you do me a favour, please, and set out the steps which you think the government intends to take in the leaving process, in order, and what they mean and achieve? It's only a few factual lines. I'd like to know. |
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Riejufixing wrote: |
Can you do me a favour, please, and set out the steps which you think the government intends to take in the leaving process, in order, and what they mean and achieve? It's only a few factual lines. I'd like to know. |
What I think they should do, or what Theresa is actually going to do? |
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Riejufixing wrote: |
The Remainers and antidemocrats are the biggest problems, generally, not just for this exercise. I hear that Bliar's sticking his oar in again for "a people's vote" (yes, we've had one).
I was chatting to my MP, and made the comparison between what's happening now, and a football match, in which our team's about to score the winning goal, but half our supporters are cheering for the opposite team, and half our team are trying to tackle our own centre forward, while the goal's left open, and the opposition need not do anything as they fall around with laughter. It seems a reasonable comparison. |
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Riejufixing wrote: | Can you do me a favour, please, and set out the steps which you think the government intends to take in the leaving process, in order, and what they mean and achieve? It's only a few factual lines. I'd like to know. |
What I think they should do, or what Theresa is actually going to do? |
The steps which you think the government intends to take in the leaving process, in order, and what they mean and achieve?
If you need time to look them up, that's OK.
Edit: You could include where some EU law, e.g. termination of the A.50 process, occurs, as well as where our own domestic legislation fits in. |
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Riejufixing wrote: | Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Theresa intends to run down the clock until close to exit day then present the house with her deal or no deal. The house she hopes will have no choice but to vote for her deal as there will have been no "no deal" preparations. We will then move to negotiating the future relationship and I think we all know what kind of relationship that will be. If we don't accept that kind of relationship then we get to stay in the backstop until we do accept the terms. |
Oh. So you don't know, then. Pity. Unfortunately, that's the case for most, I think. |
You tell us then, Captain Ignorant. Go on, what's your expert opinion on your own question?
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The steps which you think the government intends to take in the leaving process, in order, and what they mean and achieve?
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Its been answered for you, but you still refuse to accept the answer because it wasn't the one you want. Personally, I reckon the answer was pretty much nailed on correct. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Monkeywrencher wrote: | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
Of course it does. Stop being so ignorant. Everyone else can comprehend it. |
What it actually says is Remain, Remain, or spoil your ballot, look at it carefully It's a satire of the direction the sheeple are being herded. |
No it doesn't though does it? The options, which we all know the meaning of, but some of you are being awkward just for the sake of being ignorant about are..
Remain in the EU - Do you need help with this one?
Theresa May's version of remaining in the EU - which those of us not pretending to be awkward know means leave with her shit deal.
Write "Leave the EU" on the ballot paper - Which we all know means vote leave, but don;t expect anything to come of it. Which seems quite apt, all considering.
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | I knew whatever I said you were just going to call me stupid or say I don't know what I'm talking about, but I just thought I'd humour you anyway. Such a pity etc |
No, I really thought I might get something apart from the ordinary reply, or something like the above which a pathetic cop-out and weaselly attempt to say "Yes I did know really but won't say", pardon me for saying so, but really. How disappointing. Still. Something like this would have been good, so I'll post it for you, with a bit of "history". As previously, this is the government's intention:
23 June 2016: EU referendum. The electorate voted to leave[1].
29 March 2017: The PM notifed the European Council of the UK's
intention to withdraw from the European Union[2].
26 June 2018: The European Union (Withdrawal) Act receives Royal Assent: "The European Communities Act 1972 is repealed on exit day"[3].
25 November 2018: The UK and EU agree a Withdrawal Agreement[4]. There is an accompanying "Political Declaration" setting out the framework for the future relationship between the European Union and the United Kingdom[5].
THIS IS NOW
?? ??? ???? The Withdrawal Agreement is approved by parliament.
?? ??? ???? The Withdrawal Agreement is approved by the EU.
29 March 2019: Exit Day. Article 50 of the Treaty of Lisbon fires, and the Treaties of Nice, Amsterdam, Maastricht and the Single European Act cease to apply to the UK[6]. Simultaneously, The European Communities Act 1972 is repealed by the UK's European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018. The UK is now no longer a member of the EU.
29 March 2019: The Transition Period with negotiated "Withdrawal Agreement" (AKA "deal") commences[7]. Trade with the EU and any area it has a trade agreement with continues normally.
02/Apr/2019: Negotiations on the future Trade Agreement start.
31 December 2020: The Transition Period ends. The Trade Agreement starts.
End of process.
[1] Leave 17,410,742; Remain 16,141,241.
[2] https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/604079/Prime_Ministers_letter_to_European_Council_President_Donald_Tusk.pdf
[3] https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/16/crossheading/repeal-of-the-eca/enacted
[4] https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/759019/25_November_Agreement_on_the_withdrawal_of_the_United_Kingdom_of_Great_Britain_and_Northern_Ireland_from_the_European_Union_and_the_European_Atomic_Energy_Community.pdf
[5] https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/759021/25_November_Political_Declaration_setting_out_the_framework_for_the_future_relationship_between_the_European_Union_and_the_United_Kingdom__.pdf
[6] https://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty/treaty-on-European-union-and-comments/title-6-final-provisions/137-article-50.html
[7] https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/759019/25_November_Agreement_on_the_withdrawal_of_the_United_Kingdom_of_Great_Britain_and_Northern_Ireland_from_the_European_Union_and_the_European_Atomic_Energy_Community.pdf
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The last post was made 5 years, 173 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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