2 hour wait for an ambulance

[Ste]

Men die younger.

[Freddyfruitba...]

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[Ste]

Income taxpayers in June 2017, 30.3 million.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40117521

2018-2019 3.1 million income taxpayers

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/710887/Table_2.1.pdf

[Freddyfruitba...]

[M.C]

AFAIK EU migrants are good for the tax take, I don't think that's really disputed, but Val went full retard (for a change) the other day when I pointed out...

Its analysis suggests that migration has increased house prices and added to the demand for social housing, "inevitably at the expense" of others.
Although migrants are a small fraction of people in social housing, they are a rising number.
However, the report concludes that the reduction in stock - because too few homes for social rent are being built - has a part to play too.

Services are harder to judge because 'The NHS doesn't record the country of birth of patients', but by the same logic more people, combined with the same government apathy when it comes to spending on services, must have a negative impact.

That's my take on it anyway, if you massively increase the population you make sure there are places for people to live etc., if you don't and this starts impacting people's quality of life then they're going to let you know at the ballot box (which's what happened).

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[M.C]

Well my point was more it doesn't really matter if they're or not (good for tax revenue), if people are struggling to find somewhere to live etc. that's what they'll be concerned about.

I doubt someone working full time and living in a bedsit is consoled by the fact it's good for the economy.

[Polarbear]

[M.C]

[Irezumi aka Reuben]

[Skudd]

The NHS were spot on with me. There were loads of different colours and accents dealing with me. All did their part. I'm an advert for all that is good about the NHS.
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[Lord Percy]

Amazing how people can really be so daft as to believe immigration is causing the greater strain on the health service.

Almost as if baby boomer generation never happened!

[M.C]

[Irezumi aka Reuben]

[Polarbear]

[M.C]

[stinkwheel]

Surprisingly cheap to go private for a lot of things. More people should, it would take a load off the NHS.

I recently broke my shoulder falling off a ladder. Cost less than a pair of Michelin road 5's for a consultation, x-rays, then follow-up with an eminent consultant orthopaedic surgeon at a time of my chosing. All done and dusted within a couple of hours. See consultant, go for x-rays, go directly back to consultant to discuss treatment plan based on said x-rays. If I'd needed an MRI, it would have cost more but again, would have happened pretty much straight away.

Interestingly, when I first did it, I had no idea it was broken but it was getting pretty stiff after a few hours so I drove to the local minor injuries unit to get checked out, only to receive a minor bollocking off the doctor for a) Driving there and b) Not going directly to A&E. He sent me back to A&E. I drove there.

The OP is correct to complain. If you don't complain, changes will not happen
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[Lord Percy]

[UnknownStuntm...]

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[Sister Sledge]

I can't afford to go private but definitely would if I could. It removes queues for starters. Mind you, if everyone went private those queues would return and the NHS as we know it would cease to exist (which is what's happening anyway)


On the subject of population: I know the next census is 2021 - it's a shame we can't literally go through every room of every house of every street to find out the real figures. This government really have lost control over things.
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[M.C]

[Im-a-Ridah]

Official UK population from government figures for 2018 is 67 million. I doubt there are as many illegals as people think, the hostile environment policies mean it's pretty hard to just ghost around long term. Including illegals, short term EU workers, and non-EU students in all it's probably 75 million maybe. Non-EU students is 0.3 million alone.

[Sister Sledge]

I'm no expert on the NHS but am in a way via their front door!

We have a fairly new hospital near me which is a PFI/NHS jobby. It's shit (send people away with undiagnosed broken hips and they die etc) but what I have done is nosed at their list of job vacancies. OMG. It sickens me when I see so many positions open and with what I'd call obscene salaries. Probably the going rate to be fair for that type of job but so many vacancies - not just that but bonus packages added on so that people are effectively poached from other companies.
I didn't see a single job vacancy for nurses though did see one vacancy for a shrink. The rest were management positions. The hospital has been open 5 years and they're still after so many people?? If they are, how is the hospital running? How are services functioning??
Stopping my rant it's Xmas morning!
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