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PostPosted: 20:02 - 05 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would definitely haunt Yvette Fielding Wub She'd wake up covered in ectoplasm Shifty


You wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance with top tottie like her.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 05 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe after she had a few spirits?
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:
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No I am saying I dont know, so I am not going to say that I do.


This doesn't come across that way. It sounds like you don't need proof for something if it fits your belief, but insist on it if it doesn't.

Pjay wrote:
I dont need to prove they are not aliens for me to believe they are not aliens.


That's right you moron, I dont believe they are aliens because there is no proof and I personally dont need to prove they arent. You do understand the 'burden of proof' concept?

Are you retarded or something?
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PostPosted: 03:01 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:
'burden of proof' concept?



When the proof is being suppressed or hidden.

So, before his death, what did the great Neil Armstrong mean in this cryptic speech made at the 25th anniversary of Apollo 11 and him walking on the moon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUsJ8bBEqk

Quote " There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth’s protective layers. There are places to go, beyond belief.”

What did he mean? What couldn't he say?

Why did such a great man have to use such cryptic wording if he hadn't been ordered to keep quiet?
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PostPosted: 06:25 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinaboy wrote:
Pjay wrote:
'burden of proof' concept?



When the proof is being suppressed or hidden.

So, before his death, what did the great Neil Armstrong mean in this cryptic speech made at the 25th anniversary of Apollo 11 and him walking on the moon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKUsJ8bBEqk

Quote " There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth’s protective layers. There are places to go, beyond belief.”

What did he mean? What couldn't he say?

Why did such a great man have to use such cryptic wording if he hadn't been ordered to keep quiet?


Like all conspiracy theorists, you are ignoring the 99.99% of information that points one way to look at the .01% and make that more powerful than the rest.

Just use logic and reasoning to make decisions, you might find you can come off the meds.
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PostPosted: 06:41 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for caring about my health.

What about Buzz Aldrin, he states he saw some quote, "ufo" following the Apollo 11 mission.
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinaboy wrote:
Thanks for caring about my health.

What about Buzz Aldrin, he states he saw some quote, "ufo" following the Apollo 11 mission.

A UFO isn't a word used to describe a spacecraft flown by aliens.
He would have called it a spacecraft flown by aliens.

The U in UFO is the clue for you.

Stop jumping to conclusion with no proof. You think I am being lied to, yet you are happy lying to yourself.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you think governments the world over are lying to us to keep information regarding UFOs and/or aliens suppressed.

Why is the motive behind it?
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:
Chinaboy wrote:
Thanks for caring about my health.

What about Buzz Aldrin, he states he saw some quote, "ufo" following the Apollo 11 mission.

A UFO isn't a word used to describe a spacecraft flown by aliens.
He would have called it a spacecraft flown by aliens.

The U in UFO is the clue for you.

Stop jumping to conclusion with no proof. You think I am being lied to, yet you are happy lying to yourself.


Umm.... watch please... the man himself uses that term UFO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNkmhY_ju8o
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:
Pjay wrote:


That's right you moron, I dont believe they are aliens because there is no proof and I personally dont need to prove they arent. You do understand the 'burden of proof' concept?

Are you retarded or something?


No need to get abusive.

The comment was based upon this edited quote highlighting how your need for proof changes with your mood or agenda, depending on who you're arguing with.

Pjay wrote:

I dont need to prove............... I would need proof either way............ I dont think ........... I just think


You really are quite odd.

Can you show me where I have shown I believe in anything that is speculative or unfounded?

I doubt you will, as like all good morons you change the subject or as above repeat an answer that has already been dealt with.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinaboy wrote:
Umm.... watch please... the man himself uses that term UFO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNkmhY_ju8o


Yes, I know.

I'm asking you not to jump to conclusions, but you can't help yourself.

The term "UFO" (or "UFOB") was coined in 1953 by the United States Air Force (USAF) to serve as a catch-all for all such reports.

Understand that trained men use it for everything in the air.

It's mostly dipshit civilians that think the term UFO means spacecraft.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:


Understand that trained men use it for everything in the air.

It's mostly dipshit civilians that think the term UFO means spacecraft.


I'm sorry, but where was he at the time that he saw it? He was in space and called it a UFO. It wasn't a frying pan was it Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinaboy wrote:
Pjay wrote:


Understand that trained men use it for everything in the air.

It's mostly dipshit civilians that think the term UFO means spacecraft.


I'm sorry, but where was he at the time that he saw it? He was in space and called it a UFO. It wasn't a frying pan was it Rolling Eyes


Did he call it a "spaceship" or "alien craft"? No he called it "unidentified" all conclusons drawn from that are pure speculation. did he describe it in detail?
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeywrencher wrote:
Did he call it a "spaceship" or "alien craft"? No he called it "unidentified" all conclusons drawn from that are pure speculation. did he describe it in detail?


I think he means that he identified it as a spaceship.

It's this kind of thought pattern you are dealing with when it comes to certain people. These people are very susceptible to becoming transfixed with conspiracy theories. They like to fill in the gaps with whatever fits their train of thought, and will quite often overlook any facts that point to the opposite.

Chinaboy is one of these people.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:
Monkeywrencher wrote:
Did he call it a "spaceship" or "alien craft"? No he called it "unidentified" all conclusons drawn from that are pure speculation. did he describe it in detail?


I think he means that he identified it as a spaceship.

It's this kind of thought pattern you are dealing with when it comes to certain people. These people are very susceptible to becoming transfixed with conspiracy theories. They like to fill in the gaps with whatever fits their train of thought, and will quite often overlook any facts that point to the opposite.

Chinaboy is one of these people.


Get off your horse, he said it FACT
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinaboy wrote:
Get off your horse, he said it FACT

I agree he said it, I just dont know how you jump from UFO to alien space craft.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

All UFO's are not Alien space craft. Not once has one been attributed officially as a space craft. Oh yes, we are being lied to, even though the search for Extra Terrestrial life continues with funding from governments around the globe.
All alien space craft are UFO's, not all UFO's are alien space crafts.
All Horses are mammals, not all mammals are horses.

Do you see the error you make when you assume that someone can see a UFO and it might not be (statistically certain to not be) Alien?
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

When did I say that all UFO's are alien spacecraft? The word 'unidentified' means just that 'unidentified'.

Lets look at facts i have identified, Buzz Aldrin said he saw and unidentified object outside of the Apollo 11 craft moving with them. Neil Armstrong giving cryptic messages in his speech.

And just for fun, watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDj9ZZQY2kA
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinaboy wrote:
When did I say that all UFO's are alien spacecraft? The word 'unidentified' means just that 'unidentified'.

Lets look at facts i have identified, Buzz Aldrin said he saw and unidentified object outside of the Apollo 11 craft moving with them. Neil Armstrong giving cryptic messages in his speech.

And just for fun, watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDj9ZZQY2kA


I still don't see how in either of these cases, you are attributing them to Aliens. Do you have any proof of this, apart from anecdotal and the video. By proof, I don't mean a video of a UFO. You see I don't believe any UFO in history has been an alien spacecraft, so you're going to need to produce some facts that point to them being alien craft. Pointing me also to a deformed human fetus wont cut the mustard either. Especially when that fetus has been proven to have human DNA.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:

I still don't see how in either of these cases, you are attributing them to Aliens. Do you have any proof of this, apart from anecdotal and the video. By proof, I don't mean a video of a UFO. You see I don't believe any UFO in history has been an alien spacecraft, so you're going to need to produce some facts that point to them being alien craft. Pointing me also to a deformed human fetus wont cut the mustard either. Especially when that fetus has been proven to have human DNA.


Psssssssssst... Confirmation bias. Razz Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinaboy wrote:
before his death, what did the great Neil Armstrong mean in this cryptic speech

Quote " There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth’s protective layers. There are places to go, beyond belief.”

What did he mean? What couldn't he say?

Why did such a great man have to use such cryptic wording if he hadn't been ordered to keep quiet?


I like the "before his death," it makes it sound like a death-bed confession. He sure as hell didn't say it after death. It's pretty obvious what he meant though. The idea of a man on the moon was once a wild, improbable idea, but he was part of a project which made it happen. Dare to dream, then make it happen. And watch out for the moon people.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 06 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
Psssssssssst... Confirmation bias. Razz Laughing


It's like an illness.

Probably why a lot of these conspiracy nuts are on medication.
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PostPosted: 02:49 - 07 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:
Islander wrote:
Psssssssssst... Confirmation bias. Razz Laughing


It's like an illness.

Probably why a lot of these conspiracy nuts are on medication.


Au contraire Monsieur.

Those people should be on medication.

Most of the Juju men I knew in W. Africa were wired (in series) to the Moon.
They used to put them folks 'away'.
Today they 'self medicate'.
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 07 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:


I still don't see how in either of these cases, you are attributing them to Aliens. Do you have any proof of this, apart from anecdotal and the video. By proof, I don't mean a video of a UFO. You see I don't believe any UFO in history has been an alien spacecraft, so you're going to need to produce some facts that point to them being alien craft. Pointing me also to a deformed human fetus wont cut the mustard either. Especially when that fetus has been proven to have human DNA.


But you have no proof either. You just don't like the idea of admitting that there 'could be' alien life. You take the word of people who would willingly try and debunk an idea as that is the preferred thing to do by people like you and governments around the world. Make the person look small because he doesn't believe all he's told to believe. You take the word of a DNA scientist, who had been paid off enough to rough ride over the real evidence and pick and choose the points that would make the world think the Atacama humanoid is a human fetus.

I don't take medicine I don't need it. But funny how you have to name call when someone disagrees with your perfect ignorance.
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