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PostPosted: 17:18 - 02 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it was a deliberate attack, you muppet. He came back and did it again!
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 02 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Of course it was a deliberate attack, you muppet. He came back and did it again!


Had it been a bunch of white squadies, beating up a lone Muslim, before one of the squadies repeatedly drove into the Muslim, would you honestly not assume race was involved?

I said honestly.

Many local reports on Twitter and other local forums said the guy was targeted because one of the Muslims knew the family and knew he was a soldier. Many reports also doubt the version of events being brought out by the police to keep racial tension levels down. You'll have seen these too, coming from the area, but choose to ignore them. Hell, I've even posted one and linked to the story and comments.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 02 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly don't know. Are you guessing that they did it because he is a soldier, he is white or he isn't a Muslim? If it is because of 'race' as you assume, then why did they chose him? If they did it because he is a soldier as you also infer, then that is a different matter altogether.

I think what you are trying to say is that they did it because he is a white, a soldier and not a Muslim.

Don't get me wrong, whatever the motive they deserve to be locked up for along time for deliberately running somebody over. If they did it solely because he is white or a serving member of the Armed Forces then may they be locked up for a lot longer.

Has it been a bunch of squaddies running down a Muslim lad, I wouldn't automatically assume that it was being done for racial reasons. I would assume that the Muslim lad had done something to the lads or somebody they know, because not many people run others over repeatedly in a town centre full of CCTV, mobile phones and plod without a series of preceding events - not even in Batley!
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 02 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
I think what you are trying to say is that they did it because he is a white, a soldier and not a Muslim.


This appears to be the version of events from other locals who know the victim or know people who were there too.
The point I'm making is that it's becoming pretty clear that the authorities are desperate to play down any link to Muslims attacking non Muslims, in an attempt to keep racial tensions down. All this #NTDWI, lone wolf, mentally unstable, nothing to do with the victims being white bollocks is starting to wear a bit thin. Muslims are amongst the most racist people in this country, yet avoid criticism because of their skin colour.

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Has it been a bunch of squaddies running down a Muslim lad, I wouldn't automatically assume that it was being done for racial reasons. I would assume that the Muslim lad had done something to the lads or somebody they know, because not many people run others over repeatedly in a town centre full of CCTV, mobile phones and plod without a series of preceding events - not even in Batley!


I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. I seem to remember you screaming a race card at the poor fugee being waterboarded by the white extremist Nazi school boy, just like all the media did, the authorities did, the politicans did and so did all the lefty wingers and Robinson haters on here, with no proof what so ever.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 02 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well for fucks sake man instead of wasting your time on the internet go out and start your race-war if it is what you believe in.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 02 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: London killings 2019 Reply with quote

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How do we get to the bottom of a problem of black people killing each other when the Jewish, Chinese, Korean, and Eastern European communities are hugely less inclined to follow suit without using skin colour as the definitive issue?

It's cultural, and I'm not saying that to be mean, (particularly) young black men are aspiring to be part of 'gang' culture as that's what the black community glamorize.

Believe it or not a lot of British black people realise this, unfortunately organisations like the BBC are always pushing the black narrative from the US (that people are forced into crime), which's pure bullshit and only reinforces the negative image people have of black and poor people in general. Eg: you're black and/or poor so must be a scumbag.

Personally I see it as another example of mass vs 'normal' immigration. The non-problem communities are a lot smaller, and weren't purposely shipped here in large numbers, which caused the rapid creation of 'ghettos'.

The solution has to come from both sides, although the 'cultural' element really does need addressing, as there's no reason for young black men to be dying in the numbers they do.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 02 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: London killings 2019 Reply with quote

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So, are problems caused by ethnic cultural differences, or is it caused by poverty and lack of education. You need to learn to see the differences. You use a stupidly fat brush when you suggest the entirety of brown and black folk are culturally inferior.

Have a look at how much schools have improved in London, yet it doesn't seem to be making a difference to the amount of young black men dying (see my post above as to why).

Poverty is a tough one, growing up on a violent estate can make you violent, it's a tough balance between acknowledging how the environment can influence a persons development, whilst remembering people are different and react differently to the same situation.
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 02 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well for fucks sake man instead of wasting your time on the internet go out and start your race-war if it is what you believe in.


A race war against a religion?

Race card bingo strikes again.
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

London, hate that place, lost £3k at poker when I was wrecked in an all-night casino then ended up sleeping in a park. Never made it to the meeting I was down there for in the first place. Said I must have had my drink spiked. They didn't believe me but what could they say......well they said get your arse to the medical centre for a blood test. I had been taking coke but thankfully they never tested for that.... It's a long story and it didn't end well for me. I could go on for a while. Anyway, I hate London or London hates me.

TL:DR Don't play poker when on cocaine.

On topic. I think the world has become a sad tragedy, still people in this world going hungry. As long as they don't come to our country, Laughing they can bombard English cities but we Scots will be well on our way to independence by then.
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:
Diggs wrote:
Well for fucks sake man instead of wasting your time on the internet go out and start your race-war if it is what you believe in.


A race war against a religion?

Race card bingo strikes again.


Exactly, race when it suits, religion when it suits, and Dicks claims we don't like facts Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:21 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
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A race war against a religion?

Race card bingo strikes again.


Exactly, race when it suits, religion when it suits, and Dicks claims we don't like facts Laughing


Well your mate bnp72seems to be reluctant to publish half of the 'facts' he claims...

Whilst we are on the subject, why is anti Semitism considered a form a racism, given it's a prejudice against followers of Judaism?
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: London killings 2019 Reply with quote

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Have a look at how much schools have improved in London


Hm. Unsure about that. Standards have I think dropped. Intelligence stays the same, but exam. results are improved, and University entries are hugely up. They used to take only the crème de la crème. Now, it seems mostly to be about taking payments.
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PostPosted: 01:45 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Race, religion whatever, it doesn't seem to bother you when you try to demonise a whole culture whilst denying that ours may have its nut-jobs too (new word for your bingo - 'culture').

What is this 'race-card' bollocks anyhow? Why does me suggesting that you go forth and practice what you preach somehow involve a 'race-card'? Surely a race card is something that is played unfairly to elicit a response in favour of that race, rather than a suggestion that you spend time away from your computer?

Is it that you are waiting until enough people agree with you before you start smashing windows, or are you hoping that others will do it whilst you spend your time on the PC wanking to YL?

Oh, and for balance may I suggest that any Muslims with jihadi thoughts reading this do the same, i.e. stop wanking to whichever madman is spewing bile in the mosque this week....
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was so abusive about suggesting you and the jihadis stop wanking to your leaders on the internet? If I gave abusive ratings every time you said something I didn't like, I would be giving them out all the time.

In answer to your question about percentages, when the electorate decide to support a party that has a law change in its manifesto. Not complicated.

As you are trying to appear the reasonable one at the moment, can you tell me what you would do to prevent the ideology of Islam killing or converting us? Practical ideas please, not YL rhetoric...
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not reading your practical, considered solution to us non-Muslims being killed or converted yet....

Come on, whatever it is we can take it. Are you suggesting internment camps, deportation to country of historic origin, a legal version of the KKK, sterilisation or what?

Given all you have written on the subject over the years, we deserve to know what the logical next step is.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: London killings 2019 Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
M.C wrote:
Have a look at how much schools have improved in London


Hm. Unsure about that. Standards have I think dropped. Intelligence stays the same, but exam. results are improved, and University entries are hugely up. They used to take only the crème de la crème. Now, it seems mostly to be about taking payments.

Sure you're taught how to pass a test now, and going to uni isn't an indication of intelligence. My point was more if you're not interested in education it doesn't matter how good the schools are. For example people from the far-east do have an academic 'culture', and the ethnic minority pay stuff recently said Chinese people were the one group that were paid the same as their white devil colleagues. Is that an anomaly?
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Israel is a country full of Jews, plenty of whom are absolute cunts to their Arab neighbours. Does that mean all Jews are absolute cunts?


Quantify "plenty", what are we talking 20%, 30%?
At what level is the level of cunts in a certain culture acceptable to the UK, 2 times higher? 3 times?
When it comes to terrorism, FGM and child sex grooming gangs, I'd say those figures for Muslims are hundreds, if not thousands of times more than the indigenous. Is that OK? Why are they untrouchable as a culture in the UK, when others, such as Jews are openly hated by many left wing politicians?


I didn't answer this because I have no idea at all how it relates to my point that everywhere has bad people and ethnicity is usually not a deciding factor for whether a person is going to be bad or not.

Inbred Pakistani pedo rings shouldn't be untouchable, they should be sent down with the maximum sentence.

Or they shouldn't be allowed into the country in the first place.

But this is beside the point. You constantly claim that crime is by 'ethnics' without realising how broad and hostile such a statement is for the overwhelming majority of perfectly peaceful 'ethnics' in the country. That's the point.

Ever notice how most countries tend to start their downfall when rampant nationalism and petty outrage becomes the norm? It's because the voting public focus all their attention on petty tribal issues while complex political and economic problems are ignored.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:

Ever notice how most countries tend to start their downfall when rampant nationalism and petty outrage becomes the norm? It's because the voting public focus all their attention on petty tribal issues while complex political and economic problems are ignored.


Not sure about that one Thinking

Couldn't it be said that such things are a symptom of a system that is in decline anyway? Or at least, failing a lot of the population?
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: London killings 2019 Reply with quote

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the ethnic minority pay stuff recently said Chinese people were the one group that were paid the same as their white devil colleagues. Is that an anomaly?


White people in China are paid loads.

The great thing about this is that Chinese people are pragmatic about it.

The pay isn't because of favouritism (Chinese people are like the Japanase - they truly belive they're the greatest civilisation and culture on the planet), it's because western employees:

a) Add value to a company, even if that value is bullshit 'white monkey' value where the westerner is doing nothing but standing there, it still adds value, so they'll pay for it and are happy to do so. Nobody talks about 'white privilege' over there because most Chinese people don't see it as a pay issue, they see it as ethnic, and Chinese (Han) is the alpha ethnicity so it doesn't matter.

b) Are rare. Scumbag alcoholic loser English teachers command bank manager salaries in China, because they're in demand.

c) Need to be paid more than locals. Why work for peanuts in China when one can stay in one's own coutry and earn more?

Chinese people are generally pragmatic about this. For a so-called communist nation, they're the most business-minded, money-oriented culture on the planet, by far.

Anyway, TL;DR: Chinese people do not earn the same as their white devil colleages, generally.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
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Ever notice how most countries tend to start their downfall when rampant nationalism and petty outrage becomes the norm? It's because the voting public focus all their attention on petty tribal issues while complex political and economic problems are ignored.


Not sure about that one Thinking

Couldn't it be said that such things are a symptom of a system that is in decline anyway? Or at least, failing a lot of the population?


Yeah, I guess so. Tough one figuring out what came first. National decline is probably caused and represented by a whole load of things.

I'm just thinking of things like Nazi Germany, Trump America, and now Bolsanaro in Brazil, who was voted in via a populism campaign focused almost entirely on hatred for corruption and criminals. Also Xi Jinping is using a nationalism campaign to bolster support and unity in China as the economy slows - Most commentators see this as a bad thing.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not sure about that one Thinking

Couldn't it be said that such things are a symptom of a system that is in decline anyway? Or at least, failing a lot of the population?


Yeah, I guess so. Tough one figuring out what came first. National decline is probably caused and represented by a whole load of things.

I'm just thinking of things like Nazi Germany, Trump America, and now Bolsanaro in Brazil, who was voted in via a populism campaign focused almost entirely on hatred for corruption and criminals. Also Xi Jinping is using a nationalism campaign to bolster support and unity in China as the economy slows - Most commentators see this as a bad thing.


The nazi Germany one occurred to me too, as it's perhaps the most obvious. The rise of nazism didn't happen in a vacuum though. Germany's defeat in WW1 and the strangling Treaty of Versailles promoted the conditions which led to nazism.

I've said it before - no point in just attacking the nationalists and telling them they're idiots. You have to accept that they have reason for their thinking, and successfully address the issues that gave rise to it in the first place.

There will always be those who use a movement for their own ends, but this shouldn't necessarily be allowed to discredit the whole movement. It's like saying, well, Tommy Robinson endorsed some UKIP policy, so UKIP must be a fascist organisation. The danger of that line of thinking is, you'll actually end up encouraging the very thing you wish to stop, as I think we are currently seeing.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's get one thing straight about the Nazi's and Hitler. They dragged a German economy that was fucked and had inflation in the 1000's of % up by it's boot straps. I doubt any other form of government except dictatorship could have succeeded in doing that.

We sit here and criticise the Nazis because of the Jewish final solution but take that away and it was no different from any other dictatorship/communist state of that era, just much much more efficient.

If they hadn't gone on to fight the war (Hitler's megalomania) they would have been one of the most powerful and advanced nations in the world, Jeremy Corbyn wouldn't have had to worry about anti Semitism and we wouldn't have an Arab Jewish problem in the middle east. Whistle Harsh but true.

How you look at something can make it mean something completely different to the next persons view. It doesn't make either wrong.

Oh, and of course the winner is always right, which is why 'Bomber' Harris is lauded and Hermann Goering was sentenced to death for the same thing.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 03 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But this is beside the point. You constantly claim that crime is by 'ethnics' without realising how broad and hostile such a statement is for the overwhelming majority of perfectly peaceful 'ethnics' in the country. That's the point.


Quantify "overwhelming majority".. We can play this game all day.
At some point, the moral high grounders need to accept that the problems created in the UK by Muslims is due to Islamic culture itself, from fucking children to cutting off clitorises, honour killings and terrorism. It's Islam and Islamic culture to blame here. Some are just less bad than others, but all are Islamic.

At what point does the level become unacceptable to you? 20%, 30%?
You're willing to label "Plenty of Israeli's" as absolute cunts, but won't quantify where "plenty" lies, nor where "overwhelming majority" lies when it's a culture you've been programmed to defend at all costs, rathar than hating at all costs.

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Israel is a country full of Jews, plenty of whom are absolute cunts to their Arab neighbours.



Double standards seems a growing trend in Liberal lefties.
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