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Sorry, I should have been clearer. Just because a kid comes from that background doesn't automatically mean he/she will turn out a wrong'un. Lots of other factors come into play also, the main one being parental influence. Luck is a major factor also and I suspect a larger one than genetics.
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As for Huddersfield's black population, I apologise. What I should have said is that in certain parts of Huddersfield, the black population is proportionately large. Having driven through Fartown on many occasions over the years I know this to be true...
I'm sure Mdma will disagree though, as its me 
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Isn't that true of every area though? It's portrayed as a far-right thing but most communities congregate with 'their own', which according to Itchy is to protect themselves from the white devils. Not sure why white people do it too then 
Also it was a slow realisation for me that even though I saw ethnic minorities as my brothers/sisters, the feeling wasn't mutual  It's funny how much 'racism' there's both ways. |
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| M.C wrote: | | Diggs wrote: | Sorry, I should have been clearer. Just because a kid comes from that background doesn't automatically mean he/she will turn out a wrong'un. Lots of other factors come into play also, the main one being parental influence. Luck is a major factor also and I suspect a larger one than genetics. |
I agree there are lots of factors, and as usual generalising doesn't help. I just cringe with a lot of the excuses, usually made by others to try and explain away criminality and general bad behaviour. I don't know if it was always this way? |
I love how he thinks the main reason is parental influence, but genetics comes lower than "luck". 
I suppose the "luck" is knowing who your parents are and where your genetic make up came from.
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No Mdma, the main one is where you live. If you live in a dodgy area, sadly you are more likely to turn out dodgy. Parental influence comes next. After that is luck. After that comes ethnicity IMO
If you had mini-brownshirts, you'd realise just how important luck is in how a kid turns out. Luck as to who they befriend, whether they get caught and labelled at an early age, whether they get decent teachers, all sorts of things that have fuck-all to do with ethnicity.
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Here's the problem, there are people trying to frame it as a racism issue, so obviously people are going to look at and question the race angle. Just for example the (Orthodox) Jewish area near to here is a bit of a dump, yet you don't get the same issues, the same with Chinese or Eastern European areas... I will think of some more I promise 
So if it's socio-economic then why don't those communities have the same issues? I'm including white people in this, we seem to be a mixed bag, with plenty of chavscum in the UK.
If you understood why surely you'd be able to solve the issue(s)? Lets say it was 100% parenting, however unpopular it would be you could start licensing people to breed, problem solved. |
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| M.C wrote: | Here's the problem, there are people trying to frame it as a racism issue, so obviously people are going to look at and question the race angle. Just for example the (Orthodox) Jewish area near to here is a bit of a dump, yet you don't get the same issues, the same with Chinese or Eastern European areas... I will think of some more I promise
So if it's socio-economic then why don't those communities have the same issues? I'm including white people in this, we seem to be a mixed bag, with plenty of chavscum in the UK.
If you understood why surely you'd be able to solve the issue(s)? Lets say it was 100% parenting, however unpopular it would be you could start licensing people to breed, problem solved. |
Are you honestly claiming there isn't and hasn't been issues with triads in the areas that have largish chinese populations, particularly in London, Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Edinburgh and Glasgow, really ??
Or go back further in time the yiddishers for example
The main difference is the amount of time those communities have been resident in the uk, they have been here for more generations than have the african & caribbean communities.
Now, we, have the eastern european gangs..
Eventually their influence will fizzle out, as their communities are steadily integrated into the british way of life, still, we will always have pikies unfortunately
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Are you honestly claiming there isn't and hasn't been issues with triads in the areas that have largish chinese populations, particularly in London, Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Edinburgh and Glasgow, really ??
Or go back further in time the yiddishers for example
The main difference is the amount of time those communities have been resident in the uk, they have been here for more generations than have the african & caribbean communities.
Now, we, have the eastern european gangs..
Eventually their influence will fizzle out, as their communities are steadily integrated into the british way of life, still, we will always have pikies unfortunately |
You obviously don't understand the meaning of the word 'Integration'.
Integration
/ɪntɪˈɡreɪʃ(ə)n/
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noun: integration; plural noun: integrations
1.
the action or process of integrating.
"economic and political integration"
synonyms: combination, amalgamation, incorporation, unification, consolidation, merger, fusing, blending, meshing, homogenization, homogenizing, coalescing, assimilation, concatenation[/color]
We haven't had integration of communities since mass immigration commenced in the 50's.
We have had coexistence. Nothing more.
The last case of total integration was the Normans invading Saxon England in 1066. Within a generation or so there was no separate language (started as English and French) and no discernable different traits between the two cultures (Norman and Saxon).
Integration does not exist in any form in modern Britain.
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| linuxyeti wrote: | | M.C wrote: | Here's the problem, there are people trying to frame it as a racism issue, so obviously people are going to look at and question the race angle. Just for example the (Orthodox) Jewish area near to here is a bit of a dump, yet you don't get the same issues, the same with Chinese or Eastern European areas... I will think of some more I promise
So if it's socio-economic then why don't those communities have the same issues? I'm including white people in this, we seem to be a mixed bag, with plenty of chavscum in the UK.
If you understood why surely you'd be able to solve the issue(s)? Lets say it was 100% parenting, however unpopular it would be you could start licensing people to breed, problem solved. |
Are you honestly claiming there isn't and hasn't been issues with triads in the areas that have largish chinese populations, particularly in London, Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Edinburgh and Glasgow, really ??
Or go back further in time the yiddishers for example
The main difference is the amount of time those communities have been resident in the uk, they have been here for more generations than have the african & caribbean communities.
Now, we, have the eastern european gangs..
Eventually their influence will fizzle out, as their communities are steadily integrated into the british way of life, still, we will always have pikies unfortunately |
Why what problems have you had? Never had a Chinese person try to rob me, never had an Eastern European try to rob me. When is the last time their youth were on the news having stabbed each other to death?
The problems aren't just fizzling out, people are starting to realise this, the smart people are identifying the issues and coming up with solutions, unfortunately the left still want to...
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So what solutions are the smart people coming up with, that don't require additional public spending?
Just curious....
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| linuxyeti wrote: | When I was growing up in Manchester there was a major problem with triads, and the trouble caused. I've never been robbed, and tried to be robbed by anybody, aside from the pikies that robbed my bikes in the past. |
Alright so if we ignore the over-achieving Chinese community, and the hard working Eastern Europeans, because you want to generalise and blame the majority for an actual minority ( )... do we have a problem with gangster Jews?
| Diggs wrote: | So what solutions are the smart people coming up with, that don't require additional public spending?
Just curious.... |
I'm sure i mentioned it earlier Trying to encourage, as this topic is about 'London killings', black kids into education, trying to change the role models they look up to. I disagree that it requires additional public spending, there has already been a fair bit, it requires a change of that word again... culture  |
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Not so much now, but then again that was my point, you only have to look back to the earlyish 20th century, there were various jewish gangs, such as the yiddishers, aldgate mob etc...
Still, we've always had our own homegrown gangs, such as the british union of facists, national front, oh, and of course, there's the gangs associated with football teams, such as the herd, suicide squad, millwall bushwackers, yid army, english border front etc.. No good to feel left out now is it
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So we have to wait for 100 years for problems to sort themselves out?
No more black on black violence in 2048? What about in America? |
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| M.C wrote: | So we have to wait for 100 years for problems to sort themselves out?
No more black on black violence in 2048? What about in America? |
What about America, it's full of americans, horrible nation, horrible people, irrespective of ethnicity, they can all stay there ..
As to the 100 years, no, not necessarily, but, certainly need at least another 2 generations, maybe more, by then, it'll be another ethnic, national or religious minority that will be the driver of violent crime in this country. It will never be eradicated, the baton will simply be passed on.
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I find it amusing that blaming it all on slavery is a popular go to excuse for the anti establishment and anti responsibility
antics of black folk. What I wonder is, who are they showing what exactly? When predominantly, they are offing
their own and abandoning their own children. But YEAH! That'll show whitey. (That they aren't worth employing, trusting, or helping.)
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So two Muslims stab a bouncer and then within a few minutes, son of Abu Hamza is arrested at the same venue, for waving a gun around, but not related and he and the rest of the Muslim community don't know the whereabouts of the two Muslim murderers. Pull the other one - it's got bells on it.
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.....Shaymaa Lamrani, 26, of Northolt, was charged on Friday with perverting the course of justice, the Met said. She will appear at magistrates court later.
A man has also been charged with firearms offences in relation to an incident at Fountain House which happened within minutes of the killing.
The son of the banned radical cleric Abu Hamza, Imran Mostafa Kamel, was charged with possession of a firearm with intent to cause fear or danger, and possession of a firearm when prohibited for life.
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| Quote: | We have a number of enquiries that we are pursuing, however, we cannot solve this alone. We need the public to help us." |
But it's such a mystery, I mean Dindu was completely innocent, not involved in gangs or drugs and was a...
| Quote: | His family described him as a "loving, caring, bright young lad who had so many hopes and dreams". |
I mean, it's not because he was involved in drugs or gangs is it?
| Quote: | In the days after his death, pictures emerged on social media showing Jaden posing with money and claims were made that he was involved in drug dealing.
However, his family strongly denied he had any affiliation to gangs. |
Why would anyone target such a bright, loving, caring, young lad, who wasn't into drugs or gangs and was definitely not illegally riding a stolen moped with no licence or insurance 2 years underage?
It's a complete mystery.
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Is it compulsory in the Muslim faith to have a really, really awful haircut?
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