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PostPosted: 20:28 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Bike snobbery Reply with quote

Hmmm? Some people disappoint me and they’re bikers?

I was talking to some people I know about bikes.
They all have large modern bikes: ie a large MV, a GSXR 750, ZX9r, A TDM 850 and I can’t remember the other two.
They spoke about power commanders, re-mapping, carbon wheels and so on.

They were okay with the fact I have a ZX6R.
However as soon as I mentioned, British, Chinese, older/vintage, or smaller cc bikes , they turned their noses up.
We all have different views of what floats our boat, but their derisory attitude towards anything not large cc exotica was appalling.
I had the same thing when I did LE-JOG, when some twat on a large Adventure bike looked down his nose at my mighty little Hyosung GT250R and made snotty comments about Chinese shit bikes being in the same place as ‘proper adventure bikes’ Rolling Eyes



Does the fact that you ride an old Ariel or a R3 rather than a 750cc+ bike mean that you’re not a ‘proper biker’ ?
Personally I think that if you enjoy being on two wheels, then good for you and you are a biker of some form or other.


What do you consider to be a ‘biker’
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone who enjoys riding a motorcycle. For whatever purpose suits them. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: Bike snobbery Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
Hmmm? Some people disappoint me and they’re bikers?
What do you consider to be a ‘biker’


well stop caring and you won't be disappointed ...Idea

some repressed feelings of insecurities going on here like ... Wink
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who gives a fuck. It's your bike. You bought it, you maintain it, you ride it. If they want to "pose" on a £20K bike, let them get on with it. Most of the twunts either can't ride or are suicidal. A bit of banter is one thing, but actual condecension is a dick move.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: Bike snobbery Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
Personally I think that if you enjoy being on two wheels, then good for you and you are a biker of some form or other.

Not scooterists though Folded arms Yeah anything with an engine, even a Puch Maxi.

Also this is why I don't go to some cafe to talk shit about bikes Smile
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: Bike snobbery Reply with quote

People self-identifying as 'A biker' is what made me dislike identify politics before it was fashionable to dislike it Smile.

If you're going to group people into a specific category and give it a label, other people will have different ideas of what that should include.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's why borg used to dislike nodding and being nodded at.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: Bike snobbery Reply with quote

G wrote:
People self-identifying as 'A biker' .....
other people will have different ideas of what that should include.


I consider myself to be a motorcyclist. Folded arms
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: Bike snobbery Reply with quote

Copycat73 wrote:


well stop caring and you won't be disappointed ...Idea

some repressed feelings of insecurities going on here like ... Wink


I ride my bike when I like and don’t give a flying Fukk what other people think about me or my bike, if they have negative opinions , they can fukk off.
I just find it a bit sad that people think like that.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: Bike snobbery Reply with quote

thx1138 wrote:

I consider myself to be a motorcyclist. Folded arms


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PostPosted: 22:07 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: Bike snobbery Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:

They all have large modern bikes: ie a large MV, ’


Just point out, 'thats not a real MV' that normaly shuts them up.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can thank most of the mainstream motorcycle magazines for that ... some of the horseShit they come out with is truly remarkable..

They think the average Joe has at least £15k to spend on a brand new bike with kit, sat nav & luggage .....

..... and of course, this years model is infinitely better than last years , obviously ....

What a crock of $hit ....... bunch of homo's ....
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm not too bothered what folk think of me or what I ride, i hadn't realised that it might almost be considered to be exotica though.
I say this because I'm often surprised that I have to explain exactly what it is to so called bikers.
Not sure I've ever encountered snobbery as such, a lack of interest in my bike maybe or far eastern fanboys sometimes but i don't think I've ever met anyone who considers one brand better than another.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 05 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

A guy I work with is a bit like that. Not full on, but can tell he looks down on anything that isn't 1000cc plus, real proud of the fact he's only ever owned 1200s and considers my 800 a small bike. He rides a couple of thousand miles a year if lucky, mainly one euro trip almost entirely on motorways. Keeps his bike so immaculate that if a panel gets so much as a stone chip he will replace the panel or have it painted. Never rides in the wet.

He was horrified when I turned up to work yesterday after a 100 mile ride in the borders with so much salt caked onto my bike it looked like a rock. I told him he's missing out, some of the best rides I've had have been on little bikes.

Each to their own,, I'll ride anything and enjoy it.
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PostPosted: 02:56 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not understand this snobbery either.

I have a number of bikes from a 125 commuter to a full on sportsbike and some in between.

1) Are these people the Honda/Kawa/Ducati Engineers who refined these beautiful machines? No. I doubt they have too much of a clue about motorcycle mechanics let alone the engineering and physics that goes into these things.

So not if not 1) then and they are not the pioneers who've developed these high powered 150+ bhp machines maybe at least owning them means they are the following:

2) excellent skilled motorcyclists? These people ride these bikes like Marc Marquez? Rossi? Michael Dunlop?
Of course not. We all know girls who buy these bikes and ride in the most wimpy wimpy manner around the corners of real twisties if they ever went to the Chilterns or Wales or Bridgnorth etc.

All we know is that they had 8-15k in cash and then they decided to allocate that cash to an expensive bike. Or maybe not even that. Just financed probably?

Lol to these ordinary ordinary geezers acting like they're in some super exclusive club Laughing They've done nothing Laughing
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PostPosted: 03:06 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Re: Bike snobbery Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
What do you consider to be a ‘biker’

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PostPosted: 09:40 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look on it this way: I see some people owning some seriously nice stuff. It's like anything though - some people will own them and others not. It's life.

My last ride out saw me pass in the opposite direction to a group of fast bikes. 4 bikes and riders that looked immaculate. I gave a friendly slight tip of helmet to them and got nothing back. It was almost a 'how dare he speak to us' attitude from them. It did surprise me because everyone used to acknowledge each other once upon a time. My surprise lasted 3 seconds and then I got back to enjoying my ride. I think it's a sign of the times thing too? Used to be so friendly up here but now people don't chat back half the time. F*ck them.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not come across bike snobbery in person, obviously plenty on here, perhaps hiding behind an online persona?? Can't say it bothers me personally, other than when I see 'advice' being given.

1 advantage of course, like someone else has mentioned, I don't have to get in a tizzy when one of my bikes gets caked in road salt etc...
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

linuxyeti wrote:
Not come across bike snobbery in person,


That surprises me. Given you have an affinity for Chinese/Korean bikes. Most people are not keen my rat, but once they find out it's Korean, it turns into an active dislike.

And Harley riders, for the most part, are the worst, irrespective of what bike you have. If it's not a Harley, it's shit.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally I've found that people who are snobbish about bikes, tend to actually know fuck all about bikes.
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatDippyTwat wrote:
linuxyeti wrote:
Not come across bike snobbery in person,


That surprises me. Given you have an affinity for Chinese/Korean bikes. Most people are not keen my rat, but once they find out it's Korean, it turns into an active dislike.

And Harley riders, for the most part, are the worst, irrespective of what bike you have. If it's not a Harley, it's shit.


That's because they've bought into an image.
You don't seem to get that with any other brand, I mean Triumph might conjure up images of hipsters on T100s etc but there certainly isn't the attitude of the Hardly bunch.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Dippy Twat, if it's a harley, it's shit. Ftfy
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
That's because they've bought into an image.


Oh, I get that. The Doctor/Lawyer/Dentist that's having a midlife crisis, got sold a lifestyle by the salesman, and found a 25yr old gold digger to go along with it. ANything that interferes with the image they have of how "bikers" should be is to be ignored.

Now, I do know a couple of blokes that are just like most of us, but ride Harley's, hence the "Most part" caveat. But they built them themselves. No Glitzy bolt-on's and tat from a catalogue, they actually cut/welded/moved what they could, and farmed out the specialist stuff (Powder coating, paint etc). One is pretty old (Panhead? I know fuck all about them). They ride them. Yeah, they're cleaned, but not anally so. One bloke puts about 10K a year on his, and it's a hardtail, so fair play to him.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose there is another form of snobbery (if you can call it that) where why you bought a bike rather than what it is.

If you ride a bike because you like bikes and riding or if your bike is just a tool to get you to work cheaply and doesn't see the light of day any other time.

Although thinking on it those people would probably be permanently on L plates and ride a twist and go so not proper bikers Wink

As for brand snobbery, well Harleys goes without saying. BMW GS riders as well, especially earlier on but they are not so exclusive now.

Old men in tweed caps were much more likely to come over and chat when I had Triumphs than Suzukis or Hondas, does that count as snobbery?
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 06 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThatDippyTwat wrote:

Now, I do know a couple of blokes that are just like most of us, but ride Harley's, hence the "Most part" caveat. But they built them themselves. No Glitzy bolt-on's and tat from a catalogue, they actually cut/welded/moved what they could, and farmed out the specialist stuff (Powder coating, paint etc). One is pretty old (Panhead? I know fuck all about them). They ride them. Yeah, they're cleaned, but not anally so. One bloke puts about 10K a year on his, and it's a hardtail, so fair play to him.

That sounds even further away from my motorcycling paradigm -they've chosen expensive and not very good-handling motorcycles and spent a lot of time intentionally making them worse for the sake of looks. Then doggedly puts loads of miles on it, when a GPZ500s would probably be all-over a much nicer experience.
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