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I have a book somewhere called 'Treat your own back' which has all of the excercises you need in there. They are all gentle, and they don't involve hanging upside-down or dangling from things. I was recommended it years ago and it's excellent. I suggest you start there.
I can absolutely attest to the combination of core strength excercises and stretching to reduce back problems, but it's not about actually doing anything to your spine itself, rather reinforcing and stretching the structure around your spine.
It's very rare for you to have actual spinal damage, and if you had a herniated, slipped or burst disc you'd know about it and would not be able to stand.
Here's a cheap copy of the older edition:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Treat-Your-Back-Robin-McKenzie/dp/0959804927/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1547233980&sr=8-2&keywords=treat+your+own+back ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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2 cunting years I did them and they achieved nothing |
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I suspect that back injuries can be very different from one to the next, and doubt that the same exercises and therapy will be good for every situation. So I have to agree with those saying get professional advice - like I haven't
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I'll look out for that book Marjay cheers.
Im already doing some of those exercises on the floor which does help a bit, and I'm going to go swimming on Monday to see if that helps too.
Im not dosed up on painkillers like I was earlier in the week, just fucking annoyed with my stupidity for fucking my back needlessly and it's depressing if you let yourself think about it.
I can sit down for 20-30min before its painful and lay in bed for a couple of hours at a time before I have to get up and walk around or try and stretch out. So I'm lucky and grateful, but it's not quite ideal.
Im going to try a few sets of raising my knees while hanging on a pull up bar to see if that loosenses it up or reduces my discomfort.
Ordered some more motorbike parts earlier too in case that helps? |
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I think the first thing to do, before you start any kind of stretching or taking up any advice here, is to find out exactly what kind of damage you have caused yourself. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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M.C wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | I think the first thing to do, before you start any kind of stretching or taking up any advice here, is to find out exactly what kind of damage you have caused yourself. |
If only the NHS thought that way |
You have a point. The consultant I saw after breaking my back was an arrogant prick who seemed to think I didn't need to know anything about my own injury ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Exercise is the only thing consistantly proven to help back pain.
However, as others have said, hanging upside down in an attempt to stretch your spine is not what you should be looking at.
Again, already been said but you are looking to ALIGN your back into a good posture and strengthen the core muscles that hold that posture. Once you have got your body into a habit of a good alignment, you'll know when you're dong it wrong.
I'd suggest finding a good physio pilates class would help immensely.
If you have a little more mental space and time and can put up with a variable amount of woo-woo along with your releasing and aligning exercises, yoga and some forms of Tai Chi can also be useful.
I do one exerciuse in my tai chi pracxtice that looks a little like hanging upside down but that is achieved by bending over forwards, hanging from the hips then straightening up again sequentially to "re-stack" the spine into a proper alignment. I'm measurably taller after doig this exercise but it is in no way forcing anythign to move anywhere it didn't want to. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I've been managing a fucked back since the turn of the century, your question is a bit "how long is a piece of string?" I'm afraid - the condition is so variable that what helps one person one day may not work the next, let alone someone else.
Having said all that I did use a set of inversion boots for a while and they did actually work, but that was for me and your case may well be very different if it's just a case of soft tissue damage and a light sprain from over exertion.
As Stinkwheel says though, exercise is a good start. Anything that boosts core strength is a winner. Personally I swear by Swiss balls, I'm pretty certain they're the only reason I can still walk (albeit with crutches). Even my specialist has told me to go away and come back when I'm finally broken ____________________ I'm immortal. Well, so far. |
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Tarmacsurfer wrote: | I've been managing a fucked back since the turn of the century |
It really is a question of "managing" it, isn't it? I've built up my core strength quite effectively, which has helped a great deal - my pain used to stretch right around my rib cage after an hour or so on my feet, but that bit has gone now with plenty of exercise, thankfully.
But I still need plenty of rests between physical exertion, and fatigue builds through the day. Resting for too long at a time also aggravates things though
Jogging helps me - well, while I'm doing it there's no pain or discomfort, for up to about an hour anyway. All adds to the day's fatigue though. I do a lot of light stretching sessions, and have found certain movements can give me temporary relief sometimes, just trial and error with that, but never overdoing it, just starting easy. So I'm quite flexible as far as my back goes, all things considered. But oh my, does it creak and click!
While I was riding, I found I could ride all day without problems. I guess the posture my bike gives me, and perhaps the gentle but constant movement helped, as it does with my knackered shoulder, keeps it from stiffening up, and taking the weight on the bars a bit.
I avoid use of any painkillers as much as I can, finding that even the worst pain subsides after enough rest, until further exertion.
And I'm constantly conscious of posture, reminding myself not to slouch whenever I'm on my feet - again, building core strength has helped this immensely.
But just have to face I'll always have the pain and problems, and try to learn to live with it. It ain't fun! ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | Tarmacsurfer wrote: | I've been managing a fucked back since the turn of the century |
It really is a question of "managing" it, isn't it? I've built up my core strength quite effectively, which has helped a great deal - my pain used to stretch right around my rib cage after an hour or so on my feet, but that bit has gone now with plenty of exercise, thankfully.
But I still need plenty of rests between physical exertion, and fatigue builds through the day. Resting for too long at a time also aggravates things though
Jogging helps me - well, while I'm doing it there's no pain or discomfort, for up to about an hour anyway. All adds to the day's fatigue though. I do a lot of light stretching sessions, and have found certain movements can give me temporary relief sometimes, just trial and error with that, but never overdoing it, just starting easy. So I'm quite flexible as far as my back goes, all things considered. But oh my, does it creak and click!
While I was riding, I found I could ride all day without problems. I guess the posture my bike gives me, and perhaps the gentle but constant movement helped, as it does with my knackered shoulder, keeps it from stiffening up, and taking the weight on the bars a bit.
I avoid use of any painkillers as much as I can, finding that even the worst pain subsides after enough rest, until further exertion.
And I'm constantly conscious of posture, reminding myself not to slouch whenever I'm on my feet - again, building core strength has helped this immensely.
But just have to face I'll always have the pain and problems, and try to learn to live with it. It ain't fun! |
Some pain killers help the healing process in conjunction with rest.
I don't mean the ones that folk become reliant on.
Aspirin is still a good drug if your guts can handle it and you are not one of those with intolerance to it.
For aches and pains after a big day it is a magic pill.
It's also recommended in lower dosage for people at a certain age where heart disease has been or may be an issue. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 104 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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