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Posted: 08:54 - 22 Jan 2019 Post subject: Condensation in visor |
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This is probably a really stupid question, and maybe there is NO solution and it's just part and parcel of biking...
But even with the vent on the top of my helmet open, I only have to take one breath with my visor down and it steams up inside. If I actually want to see where I'm riding it's not actually possible for me to ride without the visor up just one notch, which gets REALLY cold and also slightly worrying on the motorway in case a stone were to flick up or whatever.
Is there actually a solution to this? I.e. is there some sort of coating you can apply to the inside of the visor to stop it steaming up?
Similarly, for the outside, does some sort of rain-repellent coating exist that you can apply? ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Posted: 09:39 - 22 Jan 2019 Post subject: |
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It doesn't come out of the box pre installed, you have to do it.
If you didn't do this, you haven't got one fitted.
I'd also add, invest in some microfibre cloths if you don't already have some. Visors for some lids are mega bucks
to replace. The visor on my Shark Speed-R would be around £80 and about another £30 ish for a new insert. So
using quality cleaning cloths will prolong your visors life. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Shit I've probably launched it in the rubbish on Christmas day then LOL! ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Yeah, that wasn't a leaflet. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Posted: 10:08 - 22 Jan 2019 Post subject: |
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Yeah I would be VERY surprised if I hadn't noticed it if it were in there. Even if I didn't know what it was and just assumed it was a spare outer visor or something instead of an insert, I still wouldn't have thrown it away. I bought it from sportsbikeshop, apparently they are well known for their exceptional customer care so hopefully will just send one straight out. I bought two tubs of RainX wipes on eBay for the meantime though, an anti fog one for inside and a rain repellent one for the outside. ____________________ Must Go Faster
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ThunderGuts wrote: | I believe (might be wrong on this) that the pinlock system actually absorbs the moisture and has a finite capacity, so once it's saturated it could then potentially steam up. |
Um, yes I really do think you could be wrong on that
Pinlock works like double glazing in your house windows; by having two layers, with an airgap in between, it reduces the temperature gradient from the outside face of your visor to the inside. Therefore, the inner face of the pinlock stays relatively warm, so there's less chance of your moist breath condensing and fogging it up.[/quote]
Travis Bickle wrote: | I've got a bulk load of those silicone gel balls in paper packets for keeping package contents dry. Goes back to when I used to sell electrical appliances on eBay. Could maybe stuff a load of those on the inside of the padded lining LOL |
Don't know if that's serious or not (you really never know on this forum!) but just in case - no, don't do that. Apart from potentially compromising your helmet's crash protection there's not the slightest chance it could help with your visor fogging up...
Travis Bickle wrote: | you can see a nobble on each side of the visor where one could possibly attach. |
Yes that shows it's "pinlock compatible" rather than "pinlock fitted". My most recent lid came with the pinlock sandwiched between two layers of thin card, along with a load of other leaflets etc, if you'd had no interest in any of said paperwork and weren't aware of the separate pinlock I can imagine you might have binned it by mistake?
Other tips? Someone on here once recommended fitting a cable tie around the chin bar of the helmet to prevent the visor from completely closing, facilitating a bit of ventilation? Also, can you deliberately direct your breath downwards with your lips, rather than simply exhaling forwards?
(PS I'm still irritated by the fact that when I left my previous (demolished) lid in a bin in the south of France last summer, although I remembered to salvage the comms kit from it I completely forgot about the pinlock!) ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: | ThunderGuts wrote: | I believe (might be wrong on this) that the pinlock system actually absorbs the moisture and has a finite capacity, so once it's saturated it could then potentially steam up. |
Um, yes I really do think you could be wrong on that
Pinlock works like double glazing in your house windows; by having two layers, with an airgap in between, it reduces the temperature gradient from the outside face of your visor to the inside. Therefore, the inner face of the pinlock stays relatively warm, so there's less chance of your moist breath condensing and fogging it up. |
My nagging lead me to to the Pinlock website . . . we're both right;
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To solve this issue, the Pinlock visor insert was created. The Pinlock visor insert is made out of a material that contains moisture absorbing properties, which reacts like a sponge and absorbs moisture effectively.
The inner part of the Pinlock is lined with a silicon bead, which creates a double glazed window type of effect when the Pinlock visor insert is attached to the helmet visor. The pocket of air that is trapped in between the visors acts as an insulator for the inside temperatures in the motorcycle helmet. Efficient absorption properties combined with the double glazed like feature, the Pinlock visor insert is the most effective, durable and affordable anti-fog solution on the market. |
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Pinlock inserts aren't great at night, I think they even say on the website not to use them when it's dark I'm normally ok having my visor open a crack but it depends on your lid, my old cheap Nitro which funnily enough came pinlock ready, used to fog up like a mother f**ker... even with a pinlock insert if you rode for long enough in the cold. |
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Another option is the Foggy mask:
https://respro.com/store/product/foggy-mask
Velcro to the inside of your helmet, and helps to keep the face warm. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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#baklaf ready? Helmets often come with a little breath guard thing, they help a bit, although one thing that annoyed me is if you leave your helmet about with the visor open, someone will always pick it up pulling the guard out in the process |
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Also I can see how the cable tie would work but would look rather chavvy LOL. My visor does come up in stages, like notches, I think it has between 6 and 10 notches roughly until it's fully open. I can put it on its first notch up and it will stay there all day long without fallowing down or flying up. But even with just the one notch up it's enough for the cold air to get in and keep my face like a block of ice with the weather the way it is at the moment ____________________ Must Go Faster
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 66 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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