Electric mopeds. 4kw equiv to 50cc. Need a cbt. not elec bic

[colin1]

I'm curious about electric mopeds. Has anyone got one or tried one ? I'm not sure how long they have been around. I've not seen many second-hand ones.
I think they only do about 30mph but some claim 45.
Who buys them? I think they are about £7k new. I know you will never need to buy petrol but depreciation is going to sting.
I'm thinking that might be where I come in getting a cheap second hand one when they are available but I'm not sure many people are going to buy them new so that is going to limit their availability.

[P.]

But can you wash them in the bath...

[Sister Sledge]

Decided to look into this - I remember when Yamaha first brought one out. I almost drove over the top of one..

Found this on the bay of evil:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2012-Yamaha-EC-3-electric-Moped-scooter-Ideal-camper-very-light-free-running/143090026212?hash=item2150d486e4:g:avMAAOSwSrVakZuR:rk:8:pf:0

Notice how the seller doesn't claim the range of it..
Judging by the ad it's camper van folk who buy them to plonk on the back of campers? I dunno.
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£1000 + for any second hand moped is in the 'fcuk that' range.
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[colin1]

[colin1]

Review is interesting and i like the idea of carrying a spare battery. https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/first-rides-tests/super-soco-review/
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[colin1]

There is a second hand bmw c1 evolution on ebay at the moment which has power equiv to a 250cc+ scooter but even secondhand someone is trying to get more than £10k for it.
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[colin1]

With premium ones. The vespa elettrica is £5k and is 4kw.

The ujet is about £7k and is also 4kw but that one is a bit top end with innovative design.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fujet-ws-cdn.azureedge.net%2Fassets%2F_medium%2FUjet_Scooters_profile-left-disp-closed-high-seat-bel-air-blue_180626_084234.png&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fujet.com%2F&tbnid=_N830laFRMLYSM&vet=1&docid=0LoMdMkZ6QX90M&w=1200&h=969

https://goo.gl/images/NUCqvu



https://youtu.be/IoVBKgsbO9c

https://img.newatlas.com/ujet-electric-scooter-1.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&ch=Width%2CDPR&dpr=2&fit=max&q=40&w=450&s=7cc59e72fcb22ac20ff168c6c04a1728

[Robby]

They are still niche products for people that really want an electric bike. None of them are currently anywhere near competing with anything petrol powered.

Consider that for £1500-2k you can buy a nearly new 125 scooter that will do 100mpg. Petrol will be the least of your running costs.

The second hand market for electric bikes is even worse, because the technology is rapidly improving. It means a second hand bike isn't just second hand, it's also measurably worse (in terms of range or power output) than a new one.

I can see them getting popular when I can buy something with equivalent range and performance to a 125 scooter for the same money as a (high end) 125 scooter. They aren't there yet. In fact, when they get there I'll probably buy one, along with a load more solar panels for my garage roof.

[STONEY!]

https://www.wkbikes.com/electric-motorbike-ecolt.html

electric Grom anyone?

[linuxyeti]

Ooh, I do like the looking that,an when compared to a 50cc, 60km range is fine, how many 50's do more 40 mikes without a break? Price wise, it's very much on a par with petrol equivalents. You possibly won't hear this very often but, fair pkay and well done to WK for bringing this to the UK market.
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[linuxyeti]

[colin1]

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[stevo as b4]

Believe it or not I can actually see the point of an electric small scooter, especially as a city only commuter or even as a sporty Aerox rival.

If you can get 30-40mile range on a charge and easily out accelerate a de-restrictred 50cc scoot to 40mph, then it'd be useful for someone who wants to get to work in the city and being electric there's far less reason why you shouldn't be allowed to take it into your building/office/factory at work as there's not a flammable fire risk. And if you can plug it in at work FOC to charge it up, then even better!

Where it all goes wrong is where you have to pay more than premium 125 scooter money for one though.

[colin1]

LinuxYeti, I notice you have had about 8 lesser known brand petrol bikes.

What are the ones that are ok and which are to be avoided ? What sort of problems do you get with the bad ones ?

[Sister Sledge]

As has been said it's the batteries that let them down = more so in used machines. The costs are staggering for a replacement pack and technology will have moved on..

What you need is something with a live power feed - a dodgem scooter perhaps?
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