Is daylight MOT real or not?

[tara1234]

Hey so looking through my MOT logs it seams my bike has failed a few times and got advisories duo to dodgy lighting.

Iv looked online and it appears that a daylight MOT isn't actually a thing, it is still a valid MOT, just an advisory.

So my thoughts are can I just gaffa up all my lights and switches so that they dont get tested and then ride it in daylight? Means I have a better chance of passing.

Is daylight MOT only for dirt bikes? Is it for any bike that you want to be limited to only riding in daytime? Or do bikes that have lights have to have the lights tested and gaffa taping controls isn't acceptable.

[jaffa90]

Not sure either, a mate of mine has a daylight mot with no lights or switches fitted.
Trouble is you cannot use it on a public road when it`s foggy / limited visibility where lights should be used.
Why bother just get the lights fixed and be seen.

[bladerunner]

Yes your best off just getting your lights working TBH or your not allowed on the road 30mins before/after sunrise/sunset or in bad visibility conditions. the whole day time only/ normal MOT there is no difference apart from if you don't have lights/or at least covered up then that can be an advisory. this is in reality limited to off road (competition) vehicles with bikes having a minimum ground clearance and seat height recommendation. Some MOT stations however will include road racing bikes if for competition use ie trials bikes may need to cross public roads or by ways to move from 1 section to the next or with the road racing machines you may want to do a few laps of the TT track on the machine whilst its a normal public road....Hey no speed limits over the mountain etc but you will need full legal requirements such as MOT, insurance and tax. Its the same with the off road lot if you want to ride un surfaced vehicular access paths. If your just after avoiding getting your lights working then its more up to your local MOT station, but it would be going against the spirit of the law and your local bobby may well try and prosecute you if its your day to day transport.
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[Ste]

A day time only MOT is just like any other MOT apart from it says "no lights fitted at time of test" as an advisory.

They aren't just for dirt bikes.

The finer details of what's acceptable for a day time MOT is down to the tester.

Having an MOT certificate which says "no lights fitted at time of test" won't stop the police doing you for Construction & Use offences.

Your bike having no brake light, indicators, tail light or head light is unlikely to impress your next examiner who'll already be unimpressed about the fact you're bump starting your bike.

Do you like balloons?

[Teflon-Mike]

[Sister Sledge]

That's really interesting Tef. My bike dumps itself firmly into the middle of those grey areas you mention and it's so tempting to push things but still be technically within the rules!
I've not though. Everything on my bike is there (except side stand switch) and works as it should. Not only does it keep my insurance simple but it also lessens the amount of pulls by the law and most importantly makes riding the thing far easier. A good example is slowing down - if I was being followed by a traffic police car and they were looking for something to get me with if I had a daytime MOT then I'd need to use the arm signal to show I'm braking..

Reminds me of the time I had an ancient moped and it needed an MOT. I couldn't find the interpretation of tread depth for the thing. This was difficult because of the age of it, the low power output and lack of current examples.
It passed the MOT. Their interpretation of it was: 'Visible tread'. Yup - just a shadow of tread was enough for a pass!!
At that test station I was hauled into the test shed. The lights worked off the engine and those younger mechanics didn't understand simple basic starting on the thing!

Tara - please the bike will drain funds. Get something else.
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[Robby]

Tara,
Looking on the map, you're less than 5 miles from me. I'm in Crystal Palace, and not doing much today. Bring the bike down to me and I'll have a look at the electrics.

[bikenut]

Is this the bike you bump start??

someone has said the charging/genny system is/are poor.......

Your gunna have to learn how to sort this bike out at some stage, or just use it in daylight hours or as a field bike. At least yuo will develope good thighs and learn how to "fall off".
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[grr666]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

My MOT tester told me if a bike had a light it had to work, and if it had a light switch it had to work too. Hiding either one behind gaffa tape won't get you a pass, you'd have to remove them both.

In what way are the lights "dodgy"?

[grr666]

[Teflon-Mike]

[tara1234]

Hey I have a friend in north london who can help me sort out most of the problems with it. Unfortunatly I cant drive the bike to him before MOT to fix it because he isn't an official shop or something and driving with no MOT is illigal, I cant really afford to get pulled with my engine power.

The other lights work fine, brake light comes on, indicators work. Its just the headlight that is dim. I was asking if I could daylight MOT it so that ANPR will show i've got an MOT, so I can start riding it in the day and by next year when I take it in for its MOT it will be fixed.

In regards to it being a project, I am fully aware it was a project when I bought the thing, the engine itself seams to run fine when its up to temperature and I was shown the old piston and rings that had been taken out by the guys selling me it. Cant be 100% on that obviosly but he did show me the old knackered piston.

Im going to compression test it when I get a chance to check how the engine is, bikes currently at my mates, got a new battery and 12v tester coming.

Im just wondering if its possible to daylight MOT it because it would be slightly easier.

[Teflon-Mike]

[tara1234]

[P.]

Nothing stopping you riding to a pre-booked MOT... Just cancel it.

I'd accept Robby's offer.

It's also non endorsable to ride without an MOT...

[MCN]

[Ste]

The headlight on an old imported NSR is going to be dim.

Be careful that you're not trying to find a way around a problem that isn't actually a problem and if you made it from Reading to London at night then it can't be too bad.

Drilling holes and putting screws in the throttle might see you restrict it to less than 11kW (14.5bhp) but as you don't know how much power it's got at the moment, you don't know how much power you're needing to prevent the bike from using.

[P.]

[tara1234]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

Why not just tell the authorities you never go above half throttle so you're legal? Also gaffer tape the tyres so no one knows if they're bald.

[Nobby the Bastard]

[MCN]

[P.]

[Teflon-Mike]