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Pjay wrote: | RhynoCZ wrote: | Again, it's too soon to tell. |
Well no it's not though is it?
We are not in the 60's where our understanding of these things is beyond us. We now have chromatography and mass spectrometers that can split any substance into its constituent parts and we also know the effects these parts have on the human body.
Your complete lack of understanding about such things is apparent, so I would advise you look up on it and stop talking about a subject from a standpoint of ignorance.
Every health organisation worldwide advises that vaping is safer than smoking, I'm sure they know better than you. |
Yes, the 60's are long gone. That doesn't mean we know everything just because people say so on the internet. Do you know what acrylamide is? Google that up, just for the ''it's too early to tell'' argument.
We're also still not sure on milk (healthy?), microplastics in water (is it gonna be an health issue?) added vitamins (especially vitamin C), ... and so on. Figuring out illefects on humans isn't just about puting data into a computer and pressing enter. It's also not that rare for those health organisations of yours to change their mind with higher level of knowledge on given topic. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Pjay wrote: | Plenty of wild speculation to be going on with there. |
It's called an educated guess. Heating things up always results in chemical and physical processes inside the materials.
Did you google what acrylamide is? That represents quite nicely, how heat transforms chemical structures inside materials (food) and how long does it take for us to figure such thing out, do several verifications of the results and then publicly announce it.
What could be a speculation is that a multi billion pound business would influence such studies and legislators, but let's not go there. *cough asbestos, *cough leaded petrol, * cough... ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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I understand where the yays are coming from.
(Ex Smoker)
It's the most stupid fucking people do to their self (and others) but Tax from it pays for a massive slice of the NHS.
The issue with knowing what harm it causes or not knowing is impossible to say, presently.
Vaping is relatively new. Therefore there are insufficient long-term studies.
Many drugs have been removed or their use modified after 'long-term' study revealed problems.
Vap or smoke if you wish but be fully conversent with the risks.
It is foolish to say it is less harmfull than smoking cigarets.
Its probably more accurate to say it is a less harmfull method of ingesting nicotine.
Do not poopoo the harm nicotine causes. Nicotine is the element in tobacco smoke that does the most harm.
More people die due to circulatory damage caused by nicotine than the cancers caused by constituents of the smoke.
ANd its not a swift death. They start nibbling body parts off as you go. Try to keep you alive so you can torture yourself more. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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I would trust the government or government agency's 0 percent.
They told you to smoke back in the day, encouraged it even, government campaigns on the telly advising you to light up a cigarette if you had a poorly chest.
Fuck off. Eat this, it's good for you, shit; actually it's not. Do this instead, rinse and repeat.
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I'm glad you dumbed that down for the hard of thinking.
Sit down FFS.
You are like one of them nutters on here who gets all out of shape and abusive when they read something that they do not agree with.
E-cigarettes are less harmful than cigarettes.
That was not in question.
And using 'The NHS say they are not as harmful' is skewing the evidence by a country mile.
If you read the advice the NHS advise switching to e-cigarettes in order to help STOP smoking.
The question is, Why use nicotine? It's not big or clever it's clear evidence of weakness of character.
E-cigarettes have not been around for long enough for long term study.
Introduction in 2003 is a date quoted.
How long were studies on cigarettes run for? ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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MCN wrote: | I'm glad you dumbed that down for the hard of thinking.
Sit down FFS.
You are like one of them nutters on here who gets all out of shape and abusive when they read something that they do not agree with.
E-cigarettes are less harmful than cigarettes.
That was not in question.
And using 'The NHS say they are not as harmful' is skewing the evidence by a country mile.
If you read the advice the NHS advise switching to e-cigarettes in order to help STOP smoking.
The question is, Why use nicotine? It's not big or clever it's clear evidence of weakness of character.
E-cigarettes have not been around for long enough for long term study.
Introduction in 2003 is a date quoted.
How long were studies on cigarettes run for? |
So, source of your claim? Still waiting on that. ____________________ struan80 - I'll go first - satisfied tick 1 |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 75 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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