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Wow it sounds even worse with a auto/semi auto gearbox Is there genuinely no way to permanently disable it... yank a fuse? |
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M.C wrote: | Polarbear wrote: | Are all cars made with auto S/S now or was it just a fad for a few years? |
I assume it's standard now with emission regs getting tighter. |
It's not just that. Daytime running lights (for those countries where it's mandatory), electric power steering, low displacement turbo engines, LEDs where ever it is possible, even planned engine oil consumption... all these little things make the cars green enough. Especially the electric power steering, as a hydraulic unit ''burns'' fuel 100% of the time the engine is running, while the electric unit only ''burns'' fuel while the steering box is active (you turning the wheel) and planned engine oil consumption, which significantly reduces the internal friction of the engine. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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The only way it could have resulted in the nose of the vehicle sticking out of a junction is if you lifted the clutch as it was starting and if you do that, itll then stop (most modern cars have a clutch switch interlock).
You can do the same if you dip the clutch, press the starter button and then raise the clutch immediately, it'll cut off again. |
No. The start stop is faulty. It is, in fact broken and incapable of restarting the engine. When it went, it failed to start the engine properly so as I lifted the clutch, the vehicle jumped forwards slightly with the remaining "spin" in the system then stopped again with the nose sticking out in the junction. If it was working properly, it would have had the engine running before I could have even moved it into gear.
If you turn start-stop on manually now, it will stop when you change into neutral and lift your foot off the clutch as normal. When you dip the clutch, It attempts to start the van, fails to do so, shows an error message on the centre console then turns the start-stop system off. You then have to turn the ignition all the way off and start it on the key as if it was a cold start.
It has no issues turning the engine over on the key, even on a really cold morning.
I'm pretty sure it's a capacitor-backed reversible alternator on mine that does the start-stop bit and not a conventional starter motor. An auto re-start sounds and feels entirely differently to a "normal" start. No high pitched "cawing" and the engine throws itself about a lot more but picks up more quickly/instantly, a bit like a bike motor that was waiting just on compression and needs nudging over a degree or two to fire. I believe this is actually the case with these systems, the crank position sensor lets it know the optimum position to halt the engine in for a rapid restart?
Anyway, I'm not sorry it's broken because it annoys the shit out of me. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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M.C wrote: | I get confused by all the variants, tiptronic, s-tronic, from what I've read the dual clutch boxes are meant to be better at low speed/parking etc., I want one as having a gear lever to fondle just feels old fashioned, and with paddle shifters I can pretend I'm a racing driver |
There are pretty much only 4 variants.
1) Standard AT with torque converter, which has a set of couplings between all the gears, all on one shaft. - The best in terms of durability and being very idiotproof and affordable, worst MPG.
2) Robotised manual gearbox, it's a standard manual gearbox with standard clutch, but instead of you moving selectors around and operating the clutch, it's being operated by actuators and you only press +/- or D, N, R, P. - Rather expensive, used in many BMW cars.
3) Dual clutch systems, sort of like the robotised one but with two smaller clutches, gears are pre-selected and ready to be engaged. - Very fast gear changes (I drove a DSG Superb and was amazed), but also the least idiotproof gearbox which suffers from crawling (slowly moving by just releasing the brake pedal) and holding the car in an incline (parking, stop sign... on a slope), the first clutch will burn, very quickly if you do that a lot and then you're going nowhere. Which is something that could never happen with a standard AT (1) which has a torque converter.
4) CVT, scooters and some cars, a metal belt on two rollers. - The most expensive solution giving you the perfect torque every time. I've never had a chance to drive a car with such gearbox, but I get the idea being familiar with what a scooter does. Steady revs, while the vehicle accelerates. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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M.C wrote: | I drove home in the dark DRL the other night Normally I do the opposite and leave my lights on as there's no light on the dash unless I flash my lights and get the full beam warning. |
It's not just the dark, it's also in heavy rain, fog, snow conditions. People do not realise that the tail lights are off, when the DRLs are on. A white, grey etc. car in heavy rain/snow is invisible from behind, when the tail lights are off. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Even more happily, it now defaults to start-stop off. The main dealer neither noticed nor mentioned this when it went in for its first service. Nor did they fix its tendancy to reset itself to kmh, lock-out all the radio controls or reset the language settings to French
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OT but keep your eye on that, it's an early sign of body control module (BSI) failure.
In common with a lot of vehicles, the BSI uses the instrument pack as it's central gateway and failure can lead to sudden and total non start - particularly watch out for a flashing odometer; that can be imminent failure and it's other party trick is to zero the mileage, which might sound like a good thing, but it's tricky to explain when you come to sell it. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Always turn my stop/start off as soon as I get the engine on. PIA, otherwise, thinking it's stalled. I like to be poised at the lights to be away quick if I'm first but then I'm in bike mentality, even when driving. As for saving the planet....petrol heads don't do much of that anyway! Do any bikes have it? One of my cars has it, not the other. Good reason for buying an old car, maybe. ____________________ Swansea area
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It puts itself on hi beam when there is nothing coming and dips when there is. It's uncanny! Obviously light sensors somewhere but it works amazingly well. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 64 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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