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Courier265
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 19 Feb 2019    Post subject: Jihadi bride Shamima Begum - not coming home Reply with quote

Surprised no one has mentioned this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6720367/Shamima-Begum-expect-spoken-returns-UK-police-chief.html#comments

Thank FUCK for that... may she rot in hell
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 19 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4618291#4618291 Folded arms
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 19 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

how the fuck was I suppose to see that? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 19 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it's where all terrorist shiz goes and we've been talking about it for the last few days, you've turned up late with your dailymail link Folded arms

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PostPosted: 17:07 - 22 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

ISIS bride story is a news media profit campaign, nothing more.

A couple of years ago, the news was in hysteria over "400 ISIS fighters have returned to the UK!".

It's one girl. A total non-story.

Oh and Canadian and US press have managed to conjour the exact same narrative for themselves.

- Alabama woman who joined ISIS will not be allowed back into U.S =
- Canadian ISIS bride in Syria
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 22 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
ISIS bride story is a news media profit campaign, nothing more.

Should she be allowed to return to the UK?
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 22 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
It's one girl. A total non-story.

I think you'll find there's a whole army no one knows what to do with. As I said in the other topic (Folded arms) they seem to think they've been on an extended gap year, not fighting a war against the very countries they wish to return to Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 22 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Should she be allowed to return to the UK?


wat
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 22 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
wat

So we can see where Percy stands on the total non-story.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 22 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I think it's great that her citizenship was revoked.

British born citizens need to be more aware of who they are and where they come from, and what they're giving up if they go and do absurd things like fighting for some stupid romanticised rebel cause that they've somehow ended up feeling aligned with.

Well done anyway for completely deflecting from the main point, that the whole things is a blatant media concoction aimed at selling papers via the ususal recipe: mass hysteria, and nice try on your subtle attempt at turning it into a character attack on myself, as if my opinion on this total non-story is relevant.

I really despair at how this story has become the nation's defining issue of the week. It's gossip at best.


Have to admit though, some great memes have come out of it.

https://cdn.bcf.44bytes.net/files/returnmenator.jpg
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 23 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
British born citizens need to be more aware of who they are and where they come from, and what they're giving up if they go and do absurd things like fighting for some stupid romanticised rebel cause that they've somehow ended up feeling aligned with.

So it is a newsworthy event then.
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 23 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
I really despair at how this story has become the nation's defining issue of the week. It's gossip at best.

It makes a change from Brexit.
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PostPosted: 00:42 - 23 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a character attack (or any other type of attack) on you.

You say it's a non-story so I asked what your opinion is on the main point of the story.

Everything in the news is aimed at selling papers.

Call it gossip and a non-story if you want but if it hadn't been covered in the news then people would be shouting about it being covered up as part of a conspiracy theory.

The real story isn't about the jihadist bride, it's all about what politicians have to say about the matter and what they do. Until anything significant happens, the story will slip from the front pages and we'll be back to Brexit.

What will the reaction from her and from politicians be if her baby dies in the refugee camp? Will she still want to return to the UK? Will she hold a grudge against the enemies of Islam who she'll say caused the death of her baby? At the moment, all countries with any link to her are saying they don't want her, at some point one country is going to have to accept her be it by choice or by order of a court.

It will take months for it all to play out, popcorn anyone? Razz
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 23 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Will she hold a grudge against the enemies of Islam who she'll say caused the death of her baby?

It'll be 2-1 by my count. Apparently the baby might be her ticket back in so you'll have to excuse my indifference to it.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 23 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:

Call it gossip and a non-story if you want but if it hadn't been covered in the news then people would be shouting about it being covered up as part of a conspiracy theory.


Instead the conspiracy nuts are suggesting its being used as a smoke screen to cover up some other news, "they" would rather keep buried.

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PostPosted: 16:20 - 23 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pity she wasn't buried, or lopped off head put in a dustbin.
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 23 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the loss of citizenship she should worry about. Bethnal Green Academy and the truant officer are going to be very very cross about her missing her last year at school, not to mention missing out on taking her GCSEs.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 23 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

yen_powell wrote:
It's not the loss of citizenship she should worry about. Bethnal Green Academy and the truant officer are going to be very very cross about her missing her last year at school, not to mention missing out on taking her GCSEs.


General Certificate of Supporting Extremism?

I think she got a pass. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 23 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're better off doing what she did and having three kids than passing your GCSEs Neutral
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 24 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
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The real story isn't about the jihadist bride, it's all about what politicians have to say about the matter and what they do.


I saw an interesting couter-point regarding the way things have played out for her.

The angry mob of course want her to never return, and Sajid David rejoked her citizenship for just that reason. The probelm here is that it sets a precedent. The Tory government are currently getting a bit of flack for their mass deportations. What if the home governments of these deported criminals revoke their citizenships too? Does that mean they're stuck in the UK? Funny road to go down.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 24 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

a) they can't because they'd be stateless and b) its the fact they aren't British citizens as to why they're being deported Eh?

Isis bitch is a special case given her age and Bangladeshi law given the under 21 citizenship thing, which itself will probably be challenged.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 24 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we still implemented hanging for treason it wouldn't be a problem.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 24 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard it said that this case highlights some people are second class citizens in this country, but then surely knowing you could be deported/not allowed back in might dissuade you from joining ISIS or going all stabby?

I'd probably agree with them if we didn't have a generation of people who identify with a completely different culture.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 24 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is we don't make immigrants 'earn' their citizenship.

Why is it American immigrants are much more patriotic to America than British immigrants are to UK?

We have, as a country, every right to put conditions on citizenship despite what the Abbots of this world verbose. I would have something like any crime in 5 years, revoked. Can't speak passable English, no chance. Long term illness? Sorry, you're a burden not an asset. Religious, fcuk right off if anything your religion espouses that conflicts with this countries laws.

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PostPosted: 19:38 - 24 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
If we still implemented hanging for treason it wouldn't be a problem.


Exactly
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