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Jewlio Rides Again LLB
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 19 Feb 2019    Post subject: Project Manager Job? Reply with quote

Looking at applying at a company that's offering the above role, similar but not the same sector as my current job. I've never done project management as such, though my current role incorporates more or less all the roles of the project manager.

Buzzwords, likely questions that I'll face, anything I should be safe of should I get to the interview?
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 19 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:53 - 20 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't be able to "fake it" with a few buzzwords.

Apply and set your cv up carefully to reflect the actual real pm type stuff you did. Heavy emphasis on the activities related to pm.

Then be honest in the interview.. Similar to your post here.

You don't mention whether it's contract or perm. If perm you probably won't be able to compete. If Contract then your in with a shot as they can hire you cheaper than an actual pm.
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 20 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you are familiar with standards for that sector, ask about the chain of command. They will probably want you to understand ll the new fangled lean manufacturing techniques (load of bollox). I am also in a similar role but not in the UK, and all this new lean stuff is really just more opportunities to employ more donkeys to be honest.

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PostPosted: 02:00 - 20 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

That term can cover a multitude of sins.

Do you know what sort of project management it is and is there information about it available?

As in when I started managing refits in shipyards I could get hold of old refit paperwork and learn from that. By the time I actually had to set up my own I could talk the hind leg off a donkey about how I wanted it to work even though I'd never actually done one.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 20 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have no experience of project management, it will show up quickly.

The two main methodologies I come across are PRINCE2 (waterfall) and Agile (agile/rapid application prototype). Project managers can usually speak the jargon for both, but only specialise in one.

I would expect a project manager to have a valid qualification, normally PRINCE2 practitioner. Would also expect some evidence of Agile training.

Project managers are 10 a penny, so the organisation will have no problem finding someone with experience.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 20 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies.

As I said, I've no official qualifications or experience in project management, but I've been involved in a couple of big jobs where I work, with the overseeing delivery schedules, speccing, etc. Plus the day to day role covers a lot of what appears to be required in the PM role.

Sector is more or less the same, who even though I don't have a degree relevant to the industry, I've got a good few years hands on experience, which hopefully will stand me ok.

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PostPosted: 14:13 - 20 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:30 - 20 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:10 - 20 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

You lose nothing if you try. Go for it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 23 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd play it by ear and be honest and open, I always have. When I went for my current analyst/programmer job I knew bugger all about the company's business sector and soon realised I wasn't nearly experienced enough as a programmer to do the job, which I told them ( I was already in a safe job and had nothing to lose).

They offered me the job, later the IT director told me I'd been hired because he thought he could trust me, he'd rather work with someone he trusted than a genius he didn't trust.

Twenty five years later I'm still there.

Lol, just remembered a sort of relevant incident, the director, me and another analyst had a meeting with two contractors bidding for something or other, they were pure polished trained salesmen who only seemed to speak jargon. After they left the director asked what we thought of them, all three of us simultaneously said "wankers".
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 25 Feb 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Thanks for the replies.

As I said, I've no official qualifications or experience in project management,

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Well you can't be any worse that the idiots... That have just managed our switch from a analogue phone based system to a digital one. Heads up its call center related...Disposing of the old phones and moving all to your computer.....

They forgot the most basic question in several departments....

HOW MANY LINES THEY NEED......

One uses 19 and they allocated 5.....

Will they get sacked... No. They will just get promoted.....

I have lost track of the number of projects that go wrong, despite months of so called testing.....

In fact it's a shock if it goes right.....
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PostPosted: 02:59 - 03 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what game you are in but I think it would be true to say that whilst it's important to be a good engineer to get on in engineering, but to do project management you need something else. Ideally that would be a track record........ The thing is that project management is about something different, it's about being able to project forward in time and space and to visualise all the pitfalls and fuck ups that can possibly happen, whilst still at a planning stage . You have to almost do like Tesla did, design a machine and run it inside your head and ' see ' what will and won't work. I'll just give a small example the re-cycling centre near here , where they baled carboard into one tonne bales to be carried on a fork lift. Except that the door was tall enough to go through when the tines were on the deck , when there was a bale on the forklift and lifted up a bit it was too tall to go through the door. Oh dear. If it all goes wrong, then as project manager it will be your baby and responsibility , if you think it's an area you are interested in I'd get a job in the department , work alongside on a few projects and see what works and what doesn't and then think about applying for a promotion.
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