A2 licence and 47bhp limit associated with Brexit

[Grubscrew]

Boring all this Brexit stuff, but one thing has been puzzling me and that is , in view of the fact that the EU brought about the limits to riding motorbikes, ie hp etc, if we end up pulling out which will come soon what will happen to that law.
I’m suspecting it’ll still carry on as before.
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[NJD]

I've asked this on here before and the response was yes it could be changed but no to anyone with the power to do so giving a toss about it, or even a moments thought.

Speaking with instructors when I did my test revealed the cost of the Module one test pad surface alone -- and the fact they haven't recovered that money in test fee's -- means it will probably be a long time before its changed, and changing it before the funds are even would mean admitting that whoever implemented it in the first place was wrong.. and what a costly business that would be.
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[linuxyeti]

It's very unlikely to change, and, talking to the mechanic I use, most of regualtions are more stringent in the UK than the rest of the eu..

Make of that what you will, I haven't double checked, as, well, it is what it is.
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[Robby]

What would you replace the current setup with?

Your options are to do away with the power restriction altogether - pass your test on a 125, then go and buy an R1. This is unlikely.

The alternative would be to choose a different amount of power allowed during the restricted period. The problem here is that 47hp is the standard, and bikes are available with this power output. You could either decrease it and find there are no restrictor kits available (and restricting a modern FI bike is harder than just putting some restrictor plates after a carb). You could increase the limit to say 60hp, and then find that very bikes exist in the 47-60hp range, so everyone still rides 47hp bikes.

What could be more possible would be to get rid of the need to another test to move up a restriction class (125cc > 47hp > unrestricted). That could go back to being a 2 year time limit.

[ThatDippyTwat]

Changes are usually incremental, because of cost, no matter who does or does not dictate those changes be made.

In addition to the government/official costs to change anything, instructors have an investment in the bikes they have. If they suddenly are not needed, there's going to be a lot of pissed off instructors that are down however many grand they have left to pay off, or pay for themselves. Hacked about training school bikes with moon mileage are not exactly desireable used bikes, are they?
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[NooBish-AbbZ]

Could be changed but to be honest, i think it does work. It sucked a little bit that I had to pay the test Fees twice but I understand the reasoning behind the restricted license for 2 years.

What we really need is similar rules for cars. You can pass your driving test and go and buy a Bugatti Chiron the next day, as an example.
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[Pjay]

[redeem ouzzer]

I don’t think it will change but it would give biking a huge shot in the arm if it did. I’ve said it before but the silly licensing laws put kids off getting into bikes. No one wants to wait while 24 (best case scenario depending on how deep your pockets are) to ride something with decent bhp. But EU or not the government hate private vehicles and won’t relax licensing laws, they’ll just trot out the “road safety” excuse as the reason to leave it as it is.
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[linuxyeti]

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[Riejufixing]

[Jewlio Rides Again LLB]

[Jmoan]

[Jmoan]

[Robby]

[MarJay]

[B5234FT]

There is almost zero chance of regulations ever being relaxed, on anything. The general trend in the West is ever tightening rules and Brexit wont make any difference to that

[woo]

I think they should have left things as they were once upon time i.e. 33bhp restriction on any bike for 2 years if your under 21yrs, if you can afford the insurance then great for you enjoy,

Or even better no restriction at all, if you end up killing yourself and live hopefully you learn from it, if not then thats life.
People die everyday from other more simplitic means, im not into the whole its too dangerous to give a 17yr old or noob a powerful bike when in fact they can with a car..........

Too much cuddling and shit these days
If at 17yrs old you can afford and insure a 1998 R1 or 2019 R1 then enjoy
I have never thought it fair that car drivers can drive anything from 17yrs so long as they can afford it
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[Grubscrew]

There does seem to an over complicated way of obtaining the licences, compared to “when I was a lad”.
Not that I disagree. I recon it is good to know the road/traffic etiquette on a low powered bike, but it would seem that a 30 mph moped is somewhat more of a hazard than one that say did 40.

The 30 mph has been the go for years. Bring back the Fizzie days.

My son is due to be taking his mod 2 (47bhp), I think that is the limit.
Him having been on a 125 for two years having passed his test on that has shown him the pros and cons of biking.
So I’m pleased he’s had that restriction. He has however been on my FJR1300, and can understand that with the wrong type of mindset on a 147bhp bike can be a recipe for a quick disaster.
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[grr666]

They are motor vehicles, motor vehicles are bad m`kay and are in the first throes of complete abolition. Nobody is going to make it easier to get one onto the road than it is already. They will stealth abolish ICE vehickes using other less direct legislation but which will still have an impact on uptake numbers. For example, jumping through 14000 hoops to get your licence in the first place or having age and emissions limits to prematurely retire vehicles which could otherwise go on for years. Its all going toward the same aim. Daily charges to use your own vehicles in cities, eyewatering insurance rates, parking fines, cameras catching any minor transgressions and a fat fine to go with it of course. Pretty clear to me that they are trying to take our motors away. Its always stick and never carrot.
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[Ste]

The 47bhp limit is at least a million times better than the 33bhp limit because bike manufacturers acknowledge its existence so you're not at the mercy of FI International.

Speaking of FI International, let's see how they're doing...

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03649373

Oh dear, it couldn't have happened to a nicer company.

[Kentol750]

Nothing wrong with 47bhp. You can definitely die on one of them bikes, 100mph into a lamppost isn't licence restricted. Btw... njd, mod 1 and 2 were in a long time before 47bhp change. Oh, and they split the test cost when it came in.
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[Ste]

How do you say it?

#bikelife

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bikelife+uk

What does it mean? It means that their parents should have them aborted.