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Watching "illegal pirate streams" is only illegal if you've not got the appropriate license to watch whatever it is. What you're watching needs to be licensed to be viewed in your location and on top of that, some media has licensing requirements.
As an example, to watch iPlayer you need to be in the UK and have a TV license however, to watch my5 you still need to be in the UK but you don't need to have a TV license.
The source of what you're viewing is besides the point. NBC, iPlayer, my5, cricfree, kodi or any other source are only illegal if you're not allowed to be watching whatever you're streaming.
The fact you've paid for a subscription doesn't change the fact it's not licensed to be watched it in this country. That's why you're having to use a VPN. 
You're paying for convenience rather than to be legal. |
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| Ste wrote: | Watching "illegal pirate streams" is only illegal if you've not got the appropriate license to watch whatever it is. What you're watching needs to be licensed to be viewed in your location and on top of that, some media has licensing requirements.
As an example, to watch iPlayer you need to be in the UK and have a TV license however, to watch my5 you still need to be in the UK but you don't need to have a TV license.
The source of what you're viewing is besides the point. NBC, iPlayer, my5, cricfree, kodi or any other source are only illegal if you're not allowed to be watching whatever you're streaming.
The fact you've paid for a subscription doesn't change the fact it's not licensed to be watched it in this country. That's why you're having to use a VPN.
You're paying for convenience rather than to be legal. |
Agree to disagree. That's not how I interpret the information available. 👍
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| Posted: 10:53 - 12 Mar 2019 Post subject: |
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| Hawkeye1250FA wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
How is it any more legal than watching an illegal stream? Surely it’s just the same? .
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Anyone using "surely" as the start of an argument is guessing.
No, watching a legitimate stream from a reputable company as a service that has been paid for, is quite obviously not the same as using an illegal pirate stream, regardless of licensing.
Unless what you are viewing is against the local law of that country to view - its not illegal.
| mpd72 CPT wrote: | t’s not NBC who’ll be pissed off, it’s the Premier League who supply the footage for all these US and Canadian channels. You can see the PL logo on all those broadcasts, but not on Sky, BT Sport etc. |
More guessing, but let's entertain that thought for a moment.
So what? Either NBC is annoyed or the Premier league is annoyed. Neither of the above theoretical problems result in it being classe
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I tell you what, contact the Premier League and tell them what your doing if you're that sure its legal.
https://www.premierleague.com/live-streaming
Or tell NBC...
| Quote: | Q: Can we watch video on NBCSports.com/Live outside of the United States?
A: Due to broadcasting regulations, NBC is only allowed to show NBC Sports content on the internet in the United States and U.S. Territories. Users outside of these locations will still be able to access an extensive set of non-event video content on NBCSports.com. |
You're dodging of these regulations by cheating your location is just as legit as watching a dodgy stream.
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| Posted: 11:38 - 12 Mar 2019 Post subject: |
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It's not been a grey area for about four years.
https://euipo.europa.eu/ohimportal/en/web/observatory/faqs-on-copyright-uk#1
"Under UK law, copyright infringement is a strict liability tort"
"If you are watching films or TV programme online from unauthorised websites then you are infringing copyright, regardless of the way you access them. In its 2017 ‘Filmspeler’ ruling the CJEU found that the temporary reproduction of a copyright protected work, obtained without the consent of the copyright holder, is NOT exempt from the ‘right of reproduction’."
https://www.premierleague.com/news/656708?sf186270698=1
How is watching the premier league over a VPN from an American stream which doesn't have broadcasting rights in the UK any different to watching a stream from a pirate website that doesn't have broadcasting rights in the UK? |
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The only legit suppliers in this country who have the broadcasting rights for the premier league are Sky Sports and BT Sports.
Kodi boxes don't have broadcasting rights for the premier league in the UK.
Pirate streaming websites don't have broadcasting rights for the premier league in the UK.
NBC don't have broadcasting rights for the premier league in the UK.
The only legitimate supplier of said streams in the UK are ones who've got the broadcasting rights for said streams.
You're paying for the convenience of having a reliable stream available over a VPN. Buyers of fully loaded Kodi boxes are paying for the convenience of having a reliable stream available. In both cases they're streaming from a source who do not have broadcasting rights in the UK.
We all know that you're not going to end up in a court room having to write a cheque to the Football Association for infringing their intellectual property rights but if you're telling yourself that what you're doing is 100% legit then the only person you're kidding is yourself.
Although, they are cracking down on people watching illegal streams so posting about it on a forum that's very highly ranked on Google isn't necessarily the greatest idea.
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| Hawkeye1250FA wrote: | And so we return back to you believe one thing, I believe another.
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No, you're claiming NBC are authorised to broadcast PL games to you in the UK, when you know full well they aren't, hence why you have to cheat your location with a VPN, to get around broadcast rights.
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Nbc. Com is an authorised website by the Premier league
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You know full well that content is not authorised for broadcast in the UK. There's a good reason for it, the PL sells the rights at different prices for all the 80 odd countries who broadcast the games. NBC will only be paying a fraction of the price compared to Sky and BT, that's why the US channels can afford to broadcast every single match, but in the UK we only get one at a time.
I support Huddersfield and there game will be on every week, be it on NBC, TSN or whatever channel from the other side of the pond. These broadcasts get streamed, just like you do, unauthorised in the UK and breaking the broadcast rights.
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