I made a huge mistake. I want my R6 back. Advice?

[notabikeranym...]

I think I made a huge mistake buying the S1000RR.

The power is undeniably fun, but the gimmicky fun I got from the electronics has _completely_ worn off.

Sure the power is unmatched, but the power wheelies don't hide the pain of missing my R6.

Very quickly I have regretted buying this bike. I really want my R6 back.

The problem is I've gone and locked myself in a 2 year finance deal after feeling absolutely certain that this is what I wanted.

I even loved how the S1000RR felt in the beginning, and thought that it would be an absolute upgrade to the R6 in every way and I "couldn't possibly miss a 600 after this". Now I am kicking myself completely.

Do I need to pay this bike off before I sell it, or is it a legit thing to do selling it and then using the money to pay off the finance & buy an R6 back?

I don't want it anymore.

I would have enough money after selling the S1000RR and paying off the finance to buy an R6 back, but can't keep two bikes while paying off the finance of the other until I can sell it (if this makes sense). It would be the exact same year and colour. I want my old bike back and I'd make it EXACTLY how it used to be.

I'm actually going insane over this, it's REALLY fucking with me, and I'm starting to not like biking at all. I am not excited over the S1000RR anymore. I really fucking miss my R6 and I need one back in my life.

This has gone from nagging to obsessive thought pattern and it started as a bit of doubt but has become a crisis level obsession.

I looked on ebay for one once, then once a month, then every week, now every day. I'm still in the R6 groups I used to be in and see them every day.

I'm angry at myself and on the verge of a meltdown over this shit. What to do?

[biker7]

Have a ride on an R6 (demo?) and make sure it's everything you remember. I had a ride on one and found it pretty gutless under about 7k revs. Can't imagine any 600 outshining a thou, myself but you obviously feel strongly. So, make sure and if you definitely decide to get rid - so be it. Big cash hit I'm afraid - I've been there! Hope you get your self sorted - bikes can be shit!....but worth it!
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Fat Bob (2019)

[stevo as b4]

Well this is a shame, or more so getting yourself stuck into a finance deal on a new bike your not enjoying is.

First thing, it could prove difficult to sell the S1000RR privately to someone whilst you have unsettled finance on it. You'd have to convince someone that you'd settle the finance immediately, and you might not be able to sell it while it belongs to the finance company.

Secondly it's still a cold, wet slimey spring out there, and a new litre bike with loads of electronics might be a better daily A-B rider in these conditions than a peaky egging you on track happy 600?

Thirdly, having ridden the BMW for a while, I'd want to try a test ride on the 600 or other similar bike before buying. Your used to comparatively lazy easy 1000cc power delivery and midrange. You need to know you won't find the 600 underwhelming before you go full circle and spend yourself into another hole?

Thing is if you test rode say an R6 on a hot summers day on a quiet twisty road, and on sticky tyres you might love it and want to go back to a more demanding involving peaky bike. But try one on a commute on a wet cold greasy day or when your not in Sunday sunny thrash mode then you might find it hard work, and miserable.

[Bhud]

Financial prudence as well as personal taste and preferences should guide your decisions. I checked, and new 2019 R6s are about £12K. 2008 ones go for about £3K. You will always be able to get another. Don't get another bike on finance, whatever it is. Just finish off the payments on your BMW and think about your next step when you get there.

[struan80]

I tried to write something in this thread but am struggling. Get your R6 back, I regretted selling mine.

[ThatDippyTwat]

[MarJay]

This is why the most powerful bike I have is 115bhp.
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[notabikeranym...]

I think I do need to test ride an R6 again before I make my mind up, it has been four months and the power on the S1000RR is way different. I don't actually know how I'd feel about going back to less power with the R6, but it would be nice to feel that familiar feeling again and have "my" bike back.

I just remember feeling very "at home" on the R6 and like I was fully in control. I could fully feel all the little details, and could take that bike apart and put it back together again.

There was so much familiarity and I felt like I was well on my way to mastering the R6. I felt very fast and extremely confident on it. The R6 used to be my dream bike as well, and I still think it looks better than the S1000RR.

I have a feeling I only got the S1000RR because my R6's steering lock was damaged and that pissed me off so much that I "got rid of it" to upgrade to a bigger bike that would help me forget my old bike because moar power and loads of electronics gimmicks.

I don't feel like I have anything in common with this bike like I did with the R6. There were a couple days where it got up to 20 degrees and bone dry out on the roads, so I did "go nuts" on those days and push limits in some country lanes.

I felt slower, more nervous, and the bike felt clumsy at a more intense pace and at that level of pushing it. I didn't feel like I could trust where it would "go" or what it'd do at lower lean angles.

Getting my knee down in places I was extremely familiar with felt difficult on the S1000RR, and in some places impossible and I couldn't understand why I was essentially riding slower on a "better" bike.

The electronic suspension baffles me, I have no clue what it's doing half the time and it feels "floaty" and like I have no clue where the front end is mid corner. I feel like I need a much wider entry on corners for some reason too. The R6 used to track corners and hug them more tightly. I felt like I had room on the R6 but no room on the S1000RR (I don't know if this makes any sense).

I've come to realise the only reason the electronic stuff on the S1000RR kicks in is because it has stupid amounts of torque that I don't need, and it only really happens in the wet going over manhole covers.

The ABS is the only thing I'd want to keep but even then, I feel like my ability to brake hard has been somewhat unlearned because this bike feels numb and if you want to brake hard you just have to mash the brake and then the suspension goes all funny and wobbly for a second and then you stop.

On the R6 I just about knew where the limit was before front or rear would start to lock up. I knew how much front brake I could carry mid turn safely.

As for commuting on a highly strung 600, I did that for two years with no problems and really enjoyed it actually. The weightlessness of the R6 compared with the S1000RR is actually something I really miss. I used to be able to filter much quicker on the R6, and I never got into any trouble in the wet. I rode this tihng in ice and snow ffs so that definitely wouldn't bother me.

The only benefit I can think of is motorways, and I don't like taking motorways.

Insurance is cheaper. I would ride it faster. It looks better. It did everything I wanted it to. I regret selling it and buying the S1000RR.

I think I'm locked into finance for 6 months before I can request early settlement. Trying to figure out where I go from here.

[Polarbear]

[garth]

Gsxr750 ftw.

600 weight, bit more balls. Love mine.
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[owl]

Wow, have a friend on an R6 who desperately wants a s1000rr, definitely gonna link him to this

Dependent on your credit score/status, you could take another loan from the bank, use that to settle the finance, then sell the bike privately and use the money to settle the loan.

More effort but you'd probably lose less money, just be careful of early settlement fees and make sure apr is low as possible.
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[rpsmith79]

It depends on the sort of finance you took out to purchase the S1000RR, as i know on PCP you can do a Voluntary Termination (VT), but only after you have paid back at least 50% of the balance due, and if not you will have to make up the balance to that 50% before you can terminate

[biker7]

Sounds as if you weren't ready for a big powerful sports. They do take a lot of experience to get the best from all that power. However you may well be underwhelmed having tasted the 'holy grail' - make sure before you make another mistake! The Beemer is a bike many would die for - you may grow into it. On the other hand you may have reached your ceiling or like me, downsize for reasons.
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Fat Bob (2019)

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

Keep it, you'll get used to it and love it. I was lucky in that I was able to buy a 1000 and keep my 600. At first I didn't like the 1000 but then I learned to compare and contrast, and to ride each bike the way it wanted to be ridden.

[chickenstrip]

[notabikeranym...]

Reading more of these replies, I'm now really even more confused.

Looking back, I doubted the R6 the first time I rode it and wondered if I could get used to it. I didn't trust it at all.

When I touched knee on it for the first time that's when I really fell in love with it and it got better and better from there.

I haven't had that same moment on the S1K. Everything I do on this bike seems to scream "The R6 did this better". I don't know if I need to grow into it. The R6 was a fuck-around bike and I could take the piss and that was really fun.

I might keep it for this season, and see how I go. Tbh I have no choice unless I want to lose a lot of time and money messing about with bike swaps/finance/private sales/loans. I don't really want to dig this hole deeper.

I really am conflicted over this. I do love the power, it's insane. I wouldn't get bored of that aspect, but I can't "settle" for the way this bike handles. It bugs me so much.

Then again, I haven't rode an R6 for a while, maybe it's one of those grass is greener effects. The R6 is certainly more aesthetically pleasing than this bike in my biased opinion. Even the exhausts on the S1K look like absolute lumps, and the SC-Project CR-T is the only one I'd go for. But then that's stupidly loud and I don't like that.

I don't like the weight either. It feels clumsy. Sigh.

Will I really grow into this bike when it's all looking so negative?

[chickenstrip]

[owl]

this is some #firstworldproblem shit right here
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[chickenstrip]

You could always pretend that you're a rider for a race team who have just brought in a completely new bike for the next season. So far, you have done some initial testing and found that it is very different from the old machine, and requires a new approach. Time for you to earn those ridiculously over-inflated salary figures and go figure out how to ride it to victory!
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[leolion]

im in the same position mate, ive gone from a lowly 250 cbr to a mt07 and i really want my little honda back, its even still on sale at the garage i px it at, but as id loose a shed load of money now im keeping the yamaha for this season and seeing if i gel with/how the figures look in the autumn, i feel your pain.

[P.]

[Hong Kong Phooey]

What tyres are on the bmw? Are you sure the suspension is set up and working properly? I doubt bmw would sell so many after motorcycle journalists had slagged it off if it was such a bad bike.

OTOH, a 600 is fun to zing through the gears on public roads without taking too much liberty. I can't imagine close to twice the power not getting me into severe trouble at some point. I will be adding a larger capacity bike to my collection but can't see me selling the cbr600f.
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[waffles]

I always get a 'I really wish I had kept my previous bike' feeling whenever I sell one for something else. There was a time that I pined after my stupid TT600 until I remembered that it pissed oil everywhere and kept breaking down when it ran out of electricity.... Or the xr250 that I grew to hate and never actually used anymore....

You haven't really ridden the S1000RR for very long so naturally you aren't going to know the ins and outs of the bike yet. Keep it until the weather improves. The roads at this time of year can be very greasy, muddy and full of potholes so it is hardly surprising that you aren't making good progress.

Book yourself on a trackday, ask an instructor for some free one to one tuition and see what the RR can really do. Then decide if you want to go back to an R6.
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[Pigeon]

As others have said. It's not the same bike, it's very different. It does some things not as well and others better.

Currently you have it long enough to find it doesn't do the things you used to do as well.

But what does it do better, have you tried changing what your trying to do and expose where its talents lay.

Trackday has been mentioned, this is may be where it comes together.
Or some extended trip away.

When I first got my Gixxer I struggled (and still do sometimes) to like it. I found it annoyingly heavy and slow steering compared to 600.

Even the power I found annoying. Because its so pointlessly fast for the road, I just thought it was stupid.
It was Paddy who said that I was thinking about it wrong, and should think about the power as just having reserve.
Thinking about it as being "reserve" seemed to make more sense.

You can still ride it at 60 round that corner if 60 is what it should be.
The difference is yes, you're breaking earlier for the corner, perhaps taking a wider line. And possibly getting on the gas a bit later out the corner, but the torque makes up for it.
600 is all about screaming engine, very late breaking, carrying corner speed and getting on the gas very early. There is more drama, its more exciting (imho).
1000 is different. Its just a much more efficient ride, less frenetic, but still very quick overall.