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invigiator
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 25 Mar 2019    Post subject: ABS videos or data Reply with quote
Does anyone have any links to good videos or data on head to head ABS versus expert/pro rider?

What I mean is that (let's restrict it to straight line braking for now) an expert rider can out-brake ABS in the dry, but I'd love to know stuff like by how much, how expert, what about in the wet, etc.?

Weirdly couldn't find anything on this from a web search (maybe I'm just bad). This sort of thing was popular when ABS was new on bikes, but maybe not now.
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 25 Mar 2019    Post subject: Re: ABS videos or data Reply with quote
invigiator wrote:
Does anyone have any links to good videos or data on head to head ABS versus expert/pro rider?

What I mean is that (let's restrict it to straight line braking for now) an expert rider can out-brake ABS in the dry, but I'd love to know stuff like by how much, how expert, what about in the wet, etc.?

Weirdly couldn't find anything on this from a web search (maybe I'm just bad). This sort of thing was popular when ABS was new on bikes, but maybe not now.


An experienced rider can outbrake early ABS systems (ten years ago or so) but I don't think they can any more. And by experienced I'm talking successful TT racer level.

I do remember a video with Pete Boast as I recall, but I suspect nowadays they'd be boring as they'd show the ABS equipped bikes as always winning. Plus all new bikes have to have ABS now so it's not like we have a choice any more.
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rs700
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 25 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
ABS has changed a lot, it was easy wet or dry to beat the early types of ABS on a bike or car. The newer types are getting better but still not as good as me ! lol
All these EUwank legislation was and is designed to make more sales for gemanwank industries imho. Protection of the 4th reich is their main aim.
They wont film their efforts because it will PROVE that a good rider is better than the eurowank ABS (why would they do that ?). Just like vacuum cleaners limited to under 1000 watts, the european army, bank transaction taxes, EU standards etc to protect german jobs at the expense of other uk jobs. The project EU just keeps on rolling.....
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bhinso
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 25 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
1st June 2004:
"Since I can't be bothered to read the " Rules & Guidelines for Posting" I'm afraid I'm gone from here before I get moderated out. No bad feelings, this just isn't the place for me. Too uptight"

Returned after a 15 year flounce. Impressive Thumbs Up
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invigiator
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 25 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
bhinso wrote:

Returned after a 15 year flounce. Impressive Thumbs Up


Oh! Wow. So this is actually my second post! I had no idea that I had made an account here before. I think I just logged in by accident thinking this was another forum I've recently joined.

Looks like a mod was an arse about not reading the small print on avatar sizes before joining last time. Nice to see you're determined to set the same welcoming tone again. Nice place this.
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P.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 25 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
invigiator wrote:
Looks like a mod was an arse about not reading the small print on avatar sizes before joining last time. Nice to see you're determined to set the same welcoming tone again. Nice place this.


Bye! See you in 15 years Wub

That means however that you probably have the same password as you did 15 years ago if you've also made one with similar creds on another forum.

Thats lols.
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G
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 25 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
invigiator wrote:

Looks like a mod was an arse about not reading the small print on avatar sizes before joining last time. Nice to see you're determined to set the same welcoming tone again. Nice place this.

Actually, I wouldn't have deleted your avatar twice, but quite likely another mod did, you re-uploaded the avatar without reading the rules right next to the bit where you upload the avatar, then I deleted.

The system probably penalised you more for a second offence in a short time - I don't have access to the karma system or how it affects people.

Other people had commented to try and help you, rather than criticise, but you took offence and flounced.

Anyway, on to ABS...
In a straight line in good conditions - it should be pretty hard to lock up the front, unless you're really cack handed. So an okay rider should only benefit from the anti-stoppie aspects of ABS I'd have thought, which I'd think would be pretty marginal.

In the wet or in a corner, I can see there's massive potential for improvement with decent systems.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 25 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Flounce 2:The return of the flounce?

I'm looking forward to the third installment, provisionally titled 'Flounce 3:the phantom flounce'.
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Jim Mc
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 26 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
They couldn't even outbrake ABS in the early days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6kO6ltk3a0

Hard to believe this vid is 10 years old, I remember watching it when it came out.
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bhinso
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 26 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nearly as old as when OP first flounced.

(Sorry couldn't resist Sad )
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Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 5 years, 25 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
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