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Sister Sledge
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Breaking Down Reply with quote

OK firstly I apologise if this has been asked a thousand times.. but it's always good to be up to date with information!

I ride for leisure. I probably go no further than 100 miles (radius) from home at any one time. My bike is a CCM 404 DS - the supermoto version.
I do carry basic tooling to do repairs but there's also a limit as to how much I'll carry.

I don't currently have breakdown cover - should I get it?
I've done a quick scratch but they only seem to cover for tubeless punctures and mine is tubed. Do recovery folk fix tubes or do they haul you to a suitable garage? I'm quite rural here and it might be a struggle to find one open never mind one that fixes tubed tyres.
The current tyres (Pirelli) were right twats to fit and a roadside repair by me would be basically impossible I reckon.

If my engine implodes, would the recovery folk even try getting me home or would they simply dump me at a motorcycle dealership and leave me high and dry?
I do all of my own repairs and a dealership would drain my funeral fund. It really isn't an option for expensive repairs.

I suppose I'm asking for real first hand experience of recovery companies - you're the experts.
My preferred thing would be one to attempt a repair and if no go then haul me home - do they operate like that?
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of that depends on what you pay for.

By far and away the best recovery company I've used are these guys: https://www.sos-motorcycle-recovery.co.uk/

I've had them come and get me on at least 2, I think 3 occasions though. Every single time they've made a good attempt to get me going before recovering to a destination of my choice.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bookmarked. I'll have a chat with them tomorrow once a few more replies have come in.

I suppose my needs are slightly different to a lot of peoples who ride for leisure? Older stuff doesn't fit the general group that recovery folk provide cover for. One extreme would be a 1945 bike and it's taken to a dealership for repair - there's always going to be exceptions.

I did chat to some companies but they have generic replies and Jenny didn't know what an inner tube was..
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not too fussed in the smaller detail of what they may or may not repair, out of a breakdown company I just want an attempt to repair and a lift to home or a garage of my preference.

I'm with GEM but that's because they cover the driver/rider rather than the vehicle. So they cover my 2 cars and bike, and caravan - and I think any other car I'm driving at the time if I break down. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got AA cover for any vehicle I'm standing next to at the time including bikes.

The last time I called them the repair bloke said AA guys mostly know about cars and would usually just dump you at the nearest garage or your own house (depends on the terms you've signed up for.) Said repair bloke owned a few bikes so it was my lucky day.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting.
Might be worth my while chatting to an actual breakdown van driver next time I see one. As said, the call centres just follow a script and don't experience the recovery process.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAC cover me, not specific bikes.

Didn't argue when I told them it wasn't repairable roadside, and recovered it to my house. Firm they sent had straps for putting bikes on a tiltbed, and the bloke rode himself, so knew how to use them.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Green Flag policy costs about £60 covers both my bikes and my 2 cars based on the cost of my oldest car (2002). Only time I used them, it was for a bike breaking down, and SOS Recovery turned up, tried to get bike going, then recovered bike and me to my home address. A good service was provided.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have RAC breakdown cover on a bank account but just read t&c`s and see that it doesnt mention bikes only cars.
Im covered with warranty but would be good if I have got it wrong.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your bike is a reliable type, keep hold of the yearly subscription and if you do run into trouble carry a phone number of a local recovery firm and call them .
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loads more interesting replies. It's a great site this.

Early in my searches I'd considered simply joining once I broke down but just about every quote I got mentioned a few days until the policy kicks in..
I'd never considered local breakdown. Wouldn't mind but not a single friend has a suitable van to fetch me should I need it.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAC for the win. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grubscrew wrote:
keep hold of the yearly subscription and if you do run into trouble carry a phone number of a local recovery firm and call them .

Great, sure, but what if you're not riding locally? What I'd like to know, is there any national breakdown organisation which does the same job as AA/Autoaid/GreenFlag etc, but rather than paying out a wedge every year, you just pay for the specific callout at normal rates? Unless you are a regular customer, I reckon you'd definitely come out on top that way. Personally, I regard breakdown cover not as a way of protecting me from expense in the event of a breakdown, but as a relatively painless means of getting rescued on the day shit happens when you're stuck out in the sticks in unknown territory with a dead vehicle, pissing down with rain, night closing in...

So, PAYG RAC anyone?
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 28 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The AA have hauled me from the Scottish Borders to home (Yorkshire) twice (once an oil leak, on e puncture) without a problem.
Now with the Nationwide current account which gives me European cover, regardless of vehicle age, £12-£13 per month. I tested this only within the UK, when they recovered my dead van about thirty miles around Glasgow, no problem.
As regards the AA, some policies take you home, some to a garage if open. As mentioned previously, you get what you pay for as a rule.
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

AA RAC etc.
End of thread.
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent. I'll chase all of this up later today.
With the warmer weather coming I'll be out more on the bike and I need the peace of mind.

Random question: Is towing a motorcycle using a car actually legal?
I mean you can tow car with car but what about motorcycle with car?
(I'm not going to - just had the random question pop up)
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAC? I'll leave this here.

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PostPosted: 10:31 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sister Sledge wrote:
Random question: Is towing a motorcycle using a car actually legal?
I mean you can tow car with car but what about motorcycle with car?
(I'm not going to - just had the random question pop up)


I can't imagine how you'd even go about it, let alone whether it's legal or not! There's no tow-hitch on a motorcycle and although the brakes will actually work better than a car's would in the same situation, unless you were being towed in a completely straight line by a highly disciplined driver, it'd be impossible as the furthest forward points on a motorcycle are all part of the steering (wheel/fork etc.) which wouldn't exactly be ideal for towing by . . .
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sister Sledge wrote:
Excellent. I'll chase all of this up later today.
With the warmer weather coming I'll be out more on the bike and I need the peace of mind.

Random question: Is towing a motorcycle using a car actually legal?
I mean you can tow car with car but what about motorcycle with car?
(I'm not going to - just had the random question pop up)


It's not something I've ever seen someone do. Occam's Razor suggests that might be because it would be a daft Very Happy

I think the police would just throw a generic "dangerous driving" / "without due care" type thing at you.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sister Sledge wrote:
Excellent. I'll chase all of this up later today.
With the warmer weather coming I'll be out more on the bike and I need the peace of mind.

Random question: Is towing a motorcycle using a car actually legal?
I mean you can tow car with car but what about motorcycle with car?
(I'm not going to - just had the random question pop up)


As long as you don't tie the rope to the bike and you can release it, you'd be OK.

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PostPosted: 13:50 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very interesting.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:07 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:


I think it depends on the local people they use. As said, mine were great.

The call centre were happy it had spat oil, wasn't repairable roadside, and went straight to a recovery truck. Maybe you need to impress upon them that you know what you're doing, it's not repairable, and need recovery.

YMMV.
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 31 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOS recovery are a bunch of useless cunts in my experience
They left me waiting for 6 hours until the insurance company got another recovery firm to fetch me.
Despite the high tech bullshit they boast about on their website
they're just useless twats and arseholes.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 31 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all sorted.
Yesterday I just spoke to a few different firms and went with who were knowledgeable and were on my side. Things like a puncture - nah because of the type we'd just recover you to a repair or destination of choice. That sort of thing. It's basically all I wanted should punctures or implosions happen!

I've gone with the AA.
Everything's covered and I can ride without too much worry. I've had some excellent advice here - always better to hear the goods and bads of experience.
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