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reckless_b Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 18:09 - 06 Apr 2019 Post subject: Online petition |
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Is anyone as shocked as I am regarding the latest price rise for the VED on bikes, £91 for what? I was so shocked by this latest price rise that I’ve started an online petition, let’s see if we can get enough signatures for a debate in parliament, give the poor dears something to do. Please sign the petition, pass it on to your friends, you know it makes sense.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/255914/sponsors/new?token=88Nlf7LTbuXFDwjqRKJn ____________________ 40 years on the road on and sometimes off bikes with a very recent OFF |
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grr666 Super Spammer
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Posted: 18:17 - 06 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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Won't be signing that.
Bike VED is great value for money. All they need to do is start making it about power output and you'll regret ever signing
that short sighted petition.
Bike VED based on engine CC only.
Lorry VED based on axle numbers and weight.
Bus and Coach VED based on number of seats.
Car VED based on hugely confusing sliding scale but primariy based on Co2 output.
Notice how each vehicle class is charged on what will make the most £££ for the exchequer.
I'd just keep your head down and continue being a "novelty" road user if I were you. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Ste Not Work Safe
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Freddyfruitba... World Chat Champion
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hellkat Super Spammer
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Posted: 21:33 - 06 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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I'm not putting my deets on something I have to register to read
Not that the government and specifically the petition website fellas don't already *have* them, but its just the principle.
Hell, I can't even be bothered to register on The Times Online to read articles that are more than three paragraphs long ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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grr666 Super Spammer
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Posted: 21:35 - 06 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: |
I don't know what the OP's petition actually says, obviously, but personally I'm a bit pissed off about the £91... in days of yore, road tax for bikes was always way cheaper than than cars. Now?
Here are the official figures for my vehicles:
Bike (BMW R1200RS): CO2, 95.1 g/km; Fuel, 57.4 mpg; Road tax, £91
Car (Ford B-Max 1.0 Ecoboost): CO2, 114 g/km; Fuel 57.7 mpg; Road tax, £30
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But the duty isn't calculated using emission output data in both cases. If any changes were to be made to how RFL is
paid by motorcyclists it will end up being by power output and for sure it will have WAY many more tiers than the current
system. A whole new massive can of worms for those welsh berks and the government to make needlessly complicated.
Just like the complicated fucking mess car tax now is now it's calculated by emissions data. Prior to that for those of us
old enough to remember, it was simply by engine size which as you can see still has just TWO classes above 1549cc and
under 1549cc. That's way too simple and easy to understand.
Four simple groups topped by a blanket and blunt 600cc and above is idiot proof. Don't let DVLA loose on KW for
fucks sake. Can you imagine.... We will have a similarly complex and unnecessarily fussy power output related
system to replace our simple four category cc based one, mark my words.
Just to add I have to tax the van at the end of the month for a flat £250 a year currently. Or equivalent to
about three years Spacker tax or twelve and a half years Scoot tax. Bikes still look way cheaper from where I'm sitting. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Posted: 22:16 - 06 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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The next rate up from £30 is £125 so Freddyfruitbat gets away pretty lightly there.
VED rates for cars registered between 1 March 2001 and 31 March 2017 https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-registered-on-or-after-1-march-2001
If Freddyfruitbat's car was registered on or after 1st April 2017 then it would cost £170 for the 1st year and £145 per year after that.
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Posted: 22:24 - 06 Apr 2019 Post subject: |
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I am saying that the current system needs to be left be and if they were to change it at all it would have to net them
more money not less. Subsequently a fussy and complicated power output based system would be the most likely
outcome, in my humble onion. It would make large capacity bikes at the higher end of the scale unfavourable to buy and
therefore would have the secondary effect of stealth-legislating them off the road altogether by means of harsh taxation.
The start of a slippery slope. IMO. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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You do not need to pay for tax if the vehicle has a SORN.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 357 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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