Extinction Rebellion or how not to win an argument

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Is an EV that's caught fire more dangerous for its occupants than an ICE car that's caught fire?

Those who have bought an EV will say no, because to even ask the question suggests the questioner is questioning the current agenda (which you've already invested in), and are not a believer in the new revelation. If you argue with them they'll come up scientists who will support them in their contention that an EV fire, caused by a lithium fuel cell is almost completely harmless. A secondary wave of people (trying to look clever) comprising engineers, recruiters and social workers and equivalent people on that level, will jump on the bandwagon and start hitting up Google and providing a list of cherry-picked articles to support how ICE cars are basically Molotov cocktails, except highly dangerous and as explosive as small-scale nuclear bombs. All to appear to be the true believers in the new religion, and to not be alienated and to have social currency.

Common sense: that's a lithium battery fire. It's not safe. And a fire in an ICE car just isn't that dangerous, because the occupants have time to get out, and it's not that hard to put out. Also common sense: we're not in this together. Some of us (well, not us on this forum but more on the level of Musk, Gates and other individuals, and institutional investors) are in this to get mega rich and get global control, and don't actually care about the planet (as evidenced by their personal habits) yet will fund scientists...

Objective, scientific truth can't be immutable because then it's not science. At the same time, common sense is applied science that's survived the test of time. Common sense is the real engineering heritage.

Point being, leaving this stuff to the "experts" is dangerous. Nobody is stupid for not being a scientist, and you can't leave the construction of a chimney to the expertise of a chimney sweep (a maintenance engineer).

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[Nobby the Bastard]

Yet millions of people walk round with lithium batteries in their pockets without bursting into flame.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Do that with an ice car and you could end up with just as bad conflagration.
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[Polarbear]

I would hazard a guess that 90% of vehicle fires are caused by electrical faults irrespective of the gogo juice.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Did you drive a Chevvy Corvair either?
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Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

Canyonero! Canyonero!

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Anyhoo, back to the the thread topic proper...

Just Stop Oil have moved from static tactics (superglue) to slow walk protests. We've probably all seen the footage of the guy who managed to attack the protestors before the police had got on the scene and now a frustrated pleb has done it right in front of the police:

Man arrested after clashing with Just Stop Oil activists on Blackfriar's Bridge

He actually lobs a protester at the police! Top man I do hope worry that one of these events escalates into a full scale riot
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Thought it may be worth pointing out this sort of protest has been going on for decades.

I found this, there's a rather cool looking chap at about 2:23 seconds in with a pink dreadlocked mohican powering the sound system by cycling.

I wonder what he's up to these days...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8mAeQq3EHY
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[Nobby the Bastard]

That was exactly what we were doing.
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Maybe it's just a really bad video then as that's not the image portrayed.

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I'm still in two minds over the intention of "Just Stop Oil" (or rather their sponsors.) Is it really to set back civilisation by centuries or is it actually to push the government into drafting draconian laws?
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