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PostPosted: 14:59 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One day are we going to see a 'Logans run society'. Euthanise everyone over 70 or who isn't productive.

Or was that tried in the past and called National Socialism.


What we need is some kind of pandemic, a nasty virus or something, to spread around the world. Then, if when we fuck up the response (I dunno, by maybe putting infected people in care homes, that kind of thing) we'll be well along the road Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

What we need is working fusion power. That will eliminate the majority of co2 release and will also make oil based fuels (petrol etc.) Net zero because the excess power could be used to split water and combine it with co2 in the air.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I can't understand is that with everybody hating each other, we actually want to save the human species. I'm not bothered if we go extinct. Some other species will rise to the top out of those that survive, and evolution will go about its thing again. Planet's only got about 5 billion years left to sustain life anyway, it's gonna end sometime.
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd prefer we go full on star trek.than go extinct. Always the optimist....
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd prefer we go full on star trek.than go extinct. Always the optimist....


You don't have to be considered negative if you're not bothered by the extinction of the human species. Who knows how many species of life our existence might be holding back the evolution of? In this vast universe, how important do we think we are? Anyone would think people had this idea we were created by some kind of god as special or something Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What we need is some kind of pandemic, a nasty virus or something, to spread around the world. Then, if when we fuck up the response (I dunno, by maybe putting infected people in care homes, that kind of thing) we'll be well along the road Very Happy


Maybe just not one which only targets rich Western countries who can afford to line Pfizer's pockets?

Isn't it amazing how it's left poor countries, who can't pay large pharma, largely untouched? It was meant to target BAME, yet Africa with it's cramped ghetto living conditions, poor hygiene and non existent healthcare has barely heard of Covid.

Nigeria - Population 200M, recorded 86 infections yesterday. Whilst I appreciate less with get reported, come on, that's the equivalent of the UK only recording 30 infections in the whole of the UK in a day, so 1,000 times less prevalent.


Having lived/worked in Nigeria I can categorically state human lives are not important. I have no idea if they have bypassed covid or got natural immunity or just can' t count correctly but I can state the people in power really don't care. In fact, a large scale natural clensing of the Lagos slums would probably be quite popular.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

As your god said, no testing means no cases to report.

In addition, 150 a day because of the mitigation of vaccination.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's see... least dangerous pandemic in history, mostly effects the very old, very sick, obese, etc.

Life expectancy of average Westerner ~82 years. Average African? errr.... ~60. Nigeria's 55 Shocked

Sauce: https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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, then clearly a 55 year old Nigerian is far less healthy than a UK 55 year old, so this needs taking into account.


More likely to be caught and killed because they can't run as fast as young Nigerians. Maybe eaten by a Lion or eaten by cannibals. Who knows.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wouldn't be anything to do with you assuming that all countries:

a) Have a testing system in place for the general populace and report the results honestly.
b) Have a national registration system for births and deaths that is always used and statistically analysed.

Until you have a common baseline you cannot compare one thing with the other. Science and statistics 101. Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...this Scamdemic should have wiped Africa and Asia off the map. But for some odd reason, it's far more prevalent in countries with hysterical media, WEF control and the wealth to line the pockets of large pharma.


Something designed to kill the less useful in society (which includes Black ppl as we all know Covid is racist) does sound like something the Chinese would design but things don't always go to plan Thinking

Maybe if Fauci had put more money into the gain of function research they would have hit their target demographics more accurately.

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PostPosted: 17:58 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually south asian people are more likely to be genetically more suseptable, but hey, lets blame the chinese.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually south asian people are more likely to be genetically more suseptable, but hey, lets blame the chinese.


Nobody's blaming the Chinese, but nobody with any sense trusts the CCP, actually responsible for this or not.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Actually south asian people are more likely to be genetically more suseptable, but hey, lets blame the chinese.


Nobody's blaming the Chinese, but nobody with any sense trusts the CCP, actually responsible for this or not.


I am. They have been as devious as fuck since they gave the west fireworks.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's hard to not think the CCP planned and released this to gain power over the West. There's way too much co-incidence and things which don't add up.

Wet market, my $rse. Why forbid anyone to be allowed to investigate for 12 months, at which point a large contingent of the WHO "independent" investigator team, were CCP officers and all the evidence had been removed (including the humans who worked on the project)?

Leaves young kids largely untouched and only seems to spread like wildfire in rich Western countries? Yeah right, wet market.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

You has it in spades. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 08 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You don’t really believe the CCP funded WHO’s wet market excuse do you? Wow. Just wow.


FFS, everyone knows Fauci funded it Rolling Eyes

So we have Covid in the XR thread and XR in the #ntdwi thread... both afflicted by TDS*

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