Was going for Mt07, but now Honda took my eye!

[NutsyUk]

I know I dont chat much on here lately. Mostly because ive been busy with some other electronics stuff.....

Anyway ive mentioned here a bunch of times that I really had a thing for the Mt07... and truth be told, I still do. Its an amazing looking naked bike and certainly ticks nearly all my boxes...

But I have to be honest with myself, I ride a lot on main roads so Im regularly doing 60+, And the one thing I can certainly take away from my bike training on a naked bike, 60+ on a naked bike isnt a whole lot of fun.

Anyway, A few days ago that problem might have been solved.... Hondas new CBR650R.... Esp in that matt grey black paint job.... Just wow. That thing looks utterly stunning.

Now its not perfect, one downside is its fuel efficiency. Its about the same as my old er6f, which isnt great at around 46mpg. The MT07 could manage 65mpg.... Ontop of that i hear they shrunk the tank somewhat on this years model.

And Im not sure if the 20Hp jump from what im used to is going to be an issue or not...
But in any case, Im seriously seriously tempted to get one.

The smoothness and sound of the 4 cylinders would be nice to have again too...

I cant get one yet but If i get another good project in the near future, its going to happen.

Anyway anyone else have any thoughts on this bike?



https://www.bennetts.co.uk/-/media/bikesocial/2019-january-images/honda-cbr650r-2019-review/3si-action-01.ashx?h=493&w=740&la=en&hash=481414C8C6C3BAF64630D275EB7D40534538FE63
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Kawasaki ER6F 2007 650 Gonna sell as a project bike!
Lexmoto XTR S 125 Sold!

[leolion]

not on the honda but the mt.
you can solve windblast with a large screen, however,if you intend to use it all year it will dissolve in winter without looking after it, the standard chain is unforgivable, the rear shock is umm shocking but not in a good way and its a little top heavy.

Apart from that its a good bike.

I had a smaller cbr before my yam and it was a better bike than what i have now!, id get a test ride booked at honda. Do they do a repsol yet?

[Kentol750]

46mpg out of er6f is appalling, Mrs used to get over 60 out of an n. If you can't get over 50mpg out of the Honda I'd be shocked. My 06 fireblade would only drop below 40 mpg when pushed hard.
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[NutsyUk]

[wr6133]

85BHP and 211KG, it's fat and under powered ('90's sport tourers have better figures). You'd be better off buying a used 2000 onward (fuel injected) CBR600F they weigh less and put out more power.

[NutsyUk]

II went into Norwich yesterday, 1 to have a little look at the bike in person. But I was mainly going to see if I could find some of the gloves ive been looking at online, to try on and find a right fit....

Couldnt find any gloves still

But while I was there the nice lady asked me several times to give the bike a test ride.... I gave in on the third time

Truth be told, I was completely unprepared to go for a test ride... I just wanted to oogle... But anyway Yeah I was nervous tbh, this was a nearly 8 grand bike, and Ive not ridden a sports bike like this. I mean sports tourers yeah. But, lower down more hunched over sports bikes with more power than im used to... no....


Anyway, the things I was mostly nervous about tbh was not being used to the geometry being more sporty and what not, the 20 extra HP than im used to and the shear fear of putting a single scratch on it and loosing 1000 excess

Power wise, I had nothing to fear, this thing is SMOOOTH. I mean REALLY smooth. The power was responsive and available, and didn't feel at all jerky, which to be fair I kinda expected with it being a 4 cylinder compared to my 2 cylinder I'm used to. Took it around some town roads and some dual carriage ways too.... The thing really goes... (as expected) but again nothing felt scary. This thing was solid, responsive and stable. I honestly really loved this bike. And while I found 1 or 3 i really had to look hard for some negatives.

If I was a rich man, I think I would have bought the bike right then and there. Luckily I'm not rich....

ok the negatives that come to mind, Like i mention before the economy isnt great for a bike, though I did manage to get it to 49mpg with my riding style in the time I tested it (20 minutes or so). That is a little better than the er6fs economy.

I dont like the break and clutch levers, they felt really cheap and flimsy, for something that cost 8 grand and didnt have a nice shape to them.

And this is a real nit pick, the tach was not as clear as it could be with my sun glasses on in sunny weather.

Oh and the switch gear was angled a bit low for my liking, made indicating left and right a right chore.

Honestly though, i returned to the dealership with a huge smile on my face, it was genuinely fun to ride and felt great.
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Yamaha FZ8/Fazer800 (split headlight one) 2014, gingerly getting used to the massive increase in HP and not killing myself in the process! That was easy to get used to.
Kawasaki ER6F 2007 650 Gonna sell as a project bike!
Lexmoto XTR S 125 Sold!

[leolion]

so your buying one this weekend then!

[garth]

I personally think you'd have to be mental to sink 8k into a steel framed commuter in a frock, posing as a sports bike.

210kg, 93bhp (claimed, so 85 at the wheel?)

8k would get you a gsxr750, a KTM exc for the weekends, and change to spare.
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[NutsyUk]

Im not going to drop 8k on it... And i couldnt get one any time soon anyway...

At the very earlest ill start looking maybe in the winter after people selling the buyers regrets... or maybe the year after when they've deprecated a couple of grand.

Im out of work at the mo and the projects I thought I was going to have didnt come about so I really couldnt get one right now anyway...

I was considering MT07s before at about 4 grand for a 2018 model (they shot down in price after an owner or two, ill be waiting to see if the hondas go the same way.
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Yamaha FZ8/Fazer800 (split headlight one) 2014, gingerly getting used to the massive increase in HP and not killing myself in the process! That was easy to get used to.
Kawasaki ER6F 2007 650 Gonna sell as a project bike!
Lexmoto XTR S 125 Sold!

[stevo as b4]

It sounds to me with posts from WR and ^ that only a sportsbike is ever going to be good enough or even worth getting out of bed for??

I thought the UK had moved on from the mostest fastest, more powwar sports bike phase now?

The OP didn't want a sportsbike or ever mention one. He said something about a newer replacement for an ER6 with a fairing and a smooth engine. And he gets offered a used GSXR 750 by BCF'ers?

The GSXR 750 has to be the worst GSXR of the lot for at least the last 15years, as it's a completely irrelevant bike and capacity, it's no race replica as no one races 750's. I've never got why the 750 is better than the 1000 and the 600? The only word for them that comes to my mind is pointless!

Anyway if the spec of the CBR650 is so crap, and the 93bhp is only 85 at the rear wheel, well guess what, it's not alone.

You could say that a new 193kg BMW S1000RR is fat and too heavy too, and that it's crap because it's 207bhp is going to be a fair bit less at the back wheel?

[MarJay]

It's pretty far from a sportsbike to be honest. It's basically a four cylinder version of your ER6 in a sexy frock. It's designed for people such as yourself and as such is soft as a soft thing which is buried in a pillow factory and covered in feathers.

Ride something like a 2007 R6 and then you'll see what a sportsbike should be like.
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[NutsyUk]

And all this because i thought it was pretty.....

Nothing wrong with soft things if thats what youre after.
Personally I dont fancy jabbing razor blades into my face...
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Kawasaki ER6F 2007 650 Gonna sell as a project bike!
Lexmoto XTR S 125 Sold!

[redeem ouzzer]

Anyone who considers spending 8k on anything with a steel frame should be killed.
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[MarJay]

[stonesie]

£8K for the 93 bhp honda or buy This and have enough change to insure it and buy that pair of gloves

Or, being sensible-ish, a Duke 790, moar power, less weight and good on fuel if you're not thrashing it.

[garth]

[kgm]

To be fair I wasn't keen on the GsXR750 my mate owned (2000 model IIRC). It went fast really well and I can see the appeal as a track bike but at normal road speeds I found it gutless (below 7-8k) and unweildy. It was good to thrash but just not flexible enough for me, far more fun to be had in an mt09 IMO. I guess I'm just not a fan of revvy IL4s, plus a lot of sports bikes don't fit me well due to having short arms.

Different strokes for different folks.

[stevo as b4]

I might have ridden a bike once or twice I honestly can't remember when though.

Don't get me wrong, when I was a teenager growing up 750's were the bollocks and all the pinnacle sports bikes were 750's too as unlike the big fat heavy 1000/1100's they were real race replicas and even very tasty/sexual homologation specials. Proper bikes and proper days.

But as I said in the 2005> era people still wank themselves off over the lone GSXR 750, and it was irrelevant to road riders then and now. It ain't special like older GSXR's, YZF SP's, ZXR RR's or Honda RC's.

I'd personally rather have a focused revvy supersports 600 replica or a 1000 WSB rep than an irrelevant bike.

Why arnt all road going sports bikes 750 IL4's still if they are that good?

[FretGrinder]

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[evilzed]

Someone has one of these new CB650Rs at my workplace and I've gotta admit it does look really nice, I felt tempted too but steel frame and 8K for a <100HP bike seems excessive.

[DJP]

Maybe it's just me but Honda seem way over priced these days.

That (not really a) CBR is almost the same price as a Yamaha MT09 but it's nowhere near as much bike.

Don't get me wrong: It's probably a nice enough bike in it's own right but it just isn't worth two grand more than an MT07 and isn't even on the same page as an MT09.

At £6k it'd be a contender.
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