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Wyberton John
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 28 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you'd be better off on a big bore scooter?
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 28 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The jitters and anxiety you are talking about are very familiar to myself. I had a year off with no bike last year, and I just bought a fazer 1000. I get nervous before I go out, especially if it’s with a mate as I know I’ll be pushing on, but once I’m riding the nerves disappear. It’s just time on the bike in a variety of conditions. Just keep at it, youll be fine
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 28 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a fleeting touch of anxiety once: flying down the A3 at over 50 (I don't have the best 125 for that) and it just didn't feel right... eased off to 45 and felt quite happy again. Dunno if it was the road conditions, my crap bike or just me!

3 months later and I haven't had that feeling again.

Unless you're a veteran it takes time for man and machine to become one.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 28 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ridden all sorts of bikes over the years from a Suzuki 120 up to Laverda triples but advancing years dictated summat lighter. I wanted an SV650 but a friend of a friend offered me a 20 months old, 4000 miles, Kawaski ER6F for £2500. I kept it for ten years, couldn't fault it in any way any ('shopping') bike that will 'do' 100mph in any of it's top three gears can't be bad....but it never ever 'gelled' with me in all that time. I sold it last year for £2200 and the new owner 'wrote it off' virtually immediately...........strangely I felt and still am, pissed-off with the prat !.
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

1000 miles for your first 'big' bike? Put 10,000 miles in, build up your confidence - and remember that you're in control. You'll be bossing it before you know it - it's a great handling bike with a fun but friendly power delivery. Don't worry about the condition - it's a budget bike, and will attract some surface rust. Consider it patina.

I'm not sure why you'd be any more nervous on the road with the MT07 than you would on a smaller bike. It should actually be more stable.

p.s. I've owned 34 bikes and ridden over 100. IMO it's not about 'gelling' with a bike. You may like some and dislike others, but regardless of the bike, you either have confidence or you don't. If you don't, then you need to put the miles in to get there - relax, don't overthink what you're doing, and and take it as steady as you like.

We're getting in to Summer - get out whenever you can, get in to the countryside. Do 200+ mile days.
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PostPosted: 05:16 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ridden/owned many bikes. Cheap to expensive. Slow to very fast. Old to new. No such thing as the perfect bike. Just like some aspects of all bikes. Keep having test rides. Buying selling..... Good rides bad rides are not necessarily good bikes bad bikes. MT-O7 seems an ok machine. It won't set the world alight but it's by no means a bad bike. Some people (salespersons ?) don't own bikes - just ride them. Owning one bike is often the only real problem. Get a big garage - own several and ride what suits on a particular day.
Sometimes three £3000 bikes are better than one £9000 machine. At the moment I have a bike I love. But that feeling won't last forever. Life is too short. Change bikes every year if you can afford to. Lose loads of money. Move on. Have one bike forever. Whatever.

Main thing........just ride!
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a small tip, having thunk about it Confused

If you're not already, look down the road, not at the road in front of your bike. To start with, it feels a bit scarey, but in no time at all you'll feel a lot more confident.

This is a mistake I've made on several post-lay-up first few rides. I kept looking for a pothole, or loose gravel or mud in the road (tons of all 3 round these parts), but once I stop doing that and look as far as I can down the road, everything comes together - and slides that happen when I hit said crap in road are easily brought under control.

Just comes from not riding enough, like peeps have said a few times above.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so I hope you're listening OP.
The conclusion is, you need to ride more, yes?
You mention finding nice quiet roads around the Peak District soon. Make it VERY soon. Tonight. Or tomorrow. But stop putting it off. Stop making excuses. ACF it, and then let it get dirty for a while. Pay attention to proper and regular chain maintenance.

Meanwhile, get out on it every chance you get. Need to pick up a pint of milk from the shops? Take the bike. If the shop is on your doorstep, go to one further away. Commute to work on it. Visit your mates and relatives on it. Attend that Dr's appt. on it. Do everything on it. Use it as transport, not just for fun. Negotiate the traffic snarl-ups, as well as enjoying a country lane.

I hope the reason you haven't posted anything here yet today is because you are out on it.
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

a 600RR would be better than a blade for you i think.

I'm relatively new to riding but the bike gave (and still gives) me ounces of confidence.

super light, super nimble, easy handling, fast, beautiful...
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

AshWebster wrote:
a 600RR would be better than a blade for you i think.

I'm relatively new to riding but the bike gave (and still gives) me ounces of confidence.

super light, super nimble, easy handling, fast, beautiful...


I think it's too early for the OP to be considering such things, whether they be easy to ride or not. Until I hear he is managing the bike he has without giving it a second thought (and I don't mean knee-down, peg-scraping, lap record-destroying antics Laughing ), I wouldn't want to hear him giving other bikes a second thought right now. I refuse to believe now that the MT07 has any awkward handling traits. Miles, you hear me?! MILES!
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

AshWebster wrote:
a 600RR would be better than a blade for you i think.

I'm relatively new to riding but the bike gave (and still gives) me ounces of confidence.

super light, super nimble, easy handling, fast, beautiful...


MT07 is more of a pussycat than the 600RR I reckon. As much as you like to validate your own route into motorcycling, it's most certainly not for everyone.

You're also talking to a guy who started on a 125 accidentally and ended up doing his test through combination of circumstances rather than a guy growing up watching MotoGP or something.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly. I don't think the OP could find a more user-friendly bike that still has some smiles to offer without scaring him to death.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

true, i am biased but he was saying a blade!

agreed - get out and get riding. the weather is beautiful now so no excuse!
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

AshWebster wrote:
true, i am biased but he was saying a blade!


BCF innit. Eventually, he'll fit right in Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

AshWebster wrote:
true, i am biased but he was saying a blade!

agreed - get out and get riding. the weather is beautiful now so no excuse!


I've owned a 954 and a 600RR-8. The 600 is far more extreme. Not quite as fast... but more extreme.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

im off on wednesday so ill pop out somewhere on it, Cant really commute on it i work 1/2 a mile away and its not worth getting it out the garage for that!
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

leolion wrote:
im off on wednesday so ill pop out somewhere on it, Cant really commute on it i work 1/2 a mile away and its not worth getting it out the garage for that!


Sounds like another excuse to me Razz

"It's only half a mile to work, so I'll go on the bike and go for a ride after. Or I'll go the long way around." Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

So take the scenic route to work! Very Happy


***oops! Ninja'd Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
leolion wrote:
im off on wednesday so ill pop out somewhere on it, Cant really commute on it i work 1/2 a mile away and its not worth getting it out the garage for that!


Sounds like another excuse to me Razz

"It's only half a mile to work, so I'll go on the bike and go for a ride after. Or I'll go the long way around." Thumbs Up


honestly it would take me longer to get all my security off it than get to work (yes i worry about it being nicked as well)
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

leolion wrote:


honestly it would take me longer to get all my security off it than get to work (yes i worry about it being nicked as well)


The short time it takes you to get to work means you have time to get the security off and go the long way to work Razz

Just one more feckin excuse from you, and I'll...! Mad
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 29 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
leolion wrote:


honestly it would take me longer to get all my security off it than get to work (yes i worry about it being nicked as well)


The short time it takes you to get to work means you have time to get the security off and go the long way to work Razz

Just one more feckin excuse from you, and I'll...! Mad


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PostPosted: 12:41 - 01 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankyou mr chickenstrip.

Ive had an 80mile round trip this morning through the derbyshire dales.
Had a nice stop,chat and coffee in matlock with some other rides,b-u-t(in the style of tef) why did nobody ever tell me to push the footpegs whilst cornering before?
I found this out by mistake on a roundabout and what a revelation the bike suddenly feels half its size and weight when turning it was quite a shock at first, but then i began actively hunting for roundabouts just for fun!

Cant wait till my next day off (when the weather's decent still not a wet rider yet)
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 01 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT: never mind.

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PostPosted: 12:51 - 01 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

leolion wrote:
Thankyou mr chickenstrip.

Ive had an 80mile round trip this morning through the derbyshire dales.
Had a nice stop,chat and coffee in matlock with some other rides,b-u-t(in the style of tef) why did nobody ever tell me to push the footpegs whilst cornering before?
I found this out by mistake on a roundabout and what a revelation the bike suddenly feels half its size and weight when turning it was quite a shock at first, but then i began actively hunting for roundabouts just for fun!

Cant wait till my next day off (when the weather's decent still not a wet rider yet)


Footpeg weighting in itself doesn't do a lot, but what it's doing is making you push on the inside bar. Try just pushing on the inside bar when turning in to a corner, and see what difference it makes.

Countersteering is a skill that makes a huge difference to riding.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 01 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:


Footpeg weighting in itself doesn't do a lot, but what it's doing is making you push on the inside bar. Try just pushing on the inside bar when turning in to a corner, and see what difference it makes.

Countersteering is a skill that makes a huge difference to riding.


Been doing the handlebar thing for a while, doing it with the footpeg thing makes the thing turn so sharp!
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