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Posted: 00:35 - 02 May 2019 Post subject: |
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With my last spill, I'm pretty convinced a decent back protector would have saved me from two fractured vertebrae. I landed on my back on the sharp edge of the tarmac, where it ended at the grassy verge (no kerb). Sheer bad luck. I had landed on my back twice before in spills - no damaged back, but a couple of cracked ribs each time. On one of those occasions I had a proper jacket with armour, the other, I was in a t-shirt. Go figure.
I too only wear ordinary jeans these days, have had several spills in them, and only sustained a grazed knee on one occasion.
Like I said, Russian Roulette. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 00:50 - 02 May 2019 Post subject: |
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chickenstrip wrote: | With my last spill, I'm pretty convinced a decent back protector would have saved me from two fractured vertebrae. I landed on my back on the sharp edge of the tarmac, where it ended at the grassy verge (no kerb). Sheer bad luck. I had landed on my back twice before in spills - no damaged back, but a couple of cracked ribs each time. On one of those occasions I had a proper jacket with armour, the other, I was in a t-shirt. Go figure.
I too only wear ordinary jeans these days, have had several spills in them, and only sustained a grazed knee on one occasion.
Like I said, Russian Roulette. |
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Posted: 03:15 - 02 May 2019 Post subject: Re: Choosing a lighter helmet |
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Shaft wrote: | I know Barry Sheene used to gaffa tape a bit of foam to his back, not that it did him much good |
Old Visors.
He claimed he invented the 'segmented' back protector, using tank tape and paddock scrap, sat on the back of a van!
Knee sliders too, but they were bits of old tyre gaffered to his leathers.
He was also taught to ride by Franco Bulto, whilst his Dad tried to make an expansion chamber work, for him, allegedly. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Posted: 01:36 - 03 May 2019 Post subject: Re: Choosing a lighter helmet |
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Teflon-Mike wrote: | Shaft wrote: | I know Barry Sheene used to gaffa tape a bit of foam to his back, not that it did him much good |
Old Visors.
He claimed he invented the 'segmented' back protector, using tank tape and paddock scrap, sat on the back of a van!
Knee sliders too, but they were bits of old tyre gaffered to his leathers.
He was also taught to ride by Franco Bulto, whilst his Dad tried to make an expansion chamber work, for him, allegedly. |
I think you'll find it was Barry's dad that became known as Franco, while Sr. Bulto had the nickname Paco, so when he split from Montesa and formed his own company, it became BULTopACO.
I also doubt that Barry learned a lot about riding from Paco, as he was a marketing man, not a racer, unlike Frank, who was not only a top drawer mechanic, but also an accomplished racer, that competed several times at the TT ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Posted: 03:17 - 03 May 2019 Post subject: Re: Choosing a lighter helmet |
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Shaft wrote: | I also doubt that Barry learned a lot about riding from Paco, as he was a marketing man, not a racer |
Paco... errr.. you may be right... but the history books say his full name, was Francisco Xavier Bultó. "Paco" his nick-name.
It gets more confusing with the Montesa connection, where Bulto was one of the founding partners, and I believe chief Engineer, at the start. Bit like Lyons and Weslake conceiving the Jaguar engine on fire watch during the Blitz, Permanyer and Bulto conceived the Montesa, whilst on a similar watch during the Spanish Civil war; Bultaco being the mechanic, Permanyer, the money-man, getting the financing for the firm mostly from his Family, at the start.
Bulto, left Montesa, mostly over a boardroom disagreement over his wish to go road racing, and set up Bultaco on his settlement when he went.... and ensuing resentment by a certain Sammy Miller, who was promiced a works road-race ride by him, and used to develop a trials bike, rather like had happened at Areal!
Enter Bulto's assistant at Montesa, Pedro Pi, who inspired by a UK 'Trials' demonstration, had the notion to make a trials bike for his son, from an 80cc commuter.... rather than a full-size adult bike.... which became a 'product' for company pandering to the then US boom in bike sales, and steered Pi, and Montesa as Pi was promoted into Bulto's old job as Technical director, to pursue off-road and trials machines, rather than road-racers.
Perversely, Bulto, although passionate about road-racing, actually championed Millers trials-bike into full-scale manufacture, essentially chasing the US Dollar market, and got the 'over the counter' Sherpa on sale two or three years ahead of Pi at Montesa, making the first 'Cota' trials bike.
NOW.. back to Barry....
The lore says that when Bulto, taught him to ride, young 'Sheene' was only about 9-10 years old; and Bulto, had been talking to Sheene Snr about his road-race aspirations, but left, to let Sheene Snr get on with the job on the race bike, and 'baby-sit' Sheene Jnr, and keep him from re-organising the spanners!
Whether Sheene Jnr had never ridden a motorbike before is debatable; but the incident was recounted by both parties as Bulto 'teaching' Sheene Jnr to ride...... probably on one of Bultaco's demonstrator bikes, and likely a child size version of one of them, rather like the bike Pi built for his son.
From there? Barry's rise in Road-Racing initially came as a teenager, on bikes prepared by his Dad, Frank, supplied by Bulto, still passionate about Road-Racing, but keeping Dictator Franco's firing squads at bay, selling trials bikes, to pay the bills.
Interesting, if often fragmentary commentary on the relationships coming out of the "Classic" GP circuit, where Miller finally got to ride against his nemesis, (and good friend, I believe) Agostini, where I think Steve Parish, Barry's team-mate had a fair few rides, and Barry did some of the commentating... I dont think 'Yer Maun' ever really got over the double betrayal of being denied a works GP seat by both Areal/BSA and Bultaco, and it was interesting to see that Agostini commented that he rode everything like it was 1967, and a works contract still hung on his winning!
B-U-T.... hard to sift the wheat from the chaff in an awful lot of anything our Barry ever had to say really! "Splash it all over 'arry!" But the Riding lesson from Bulto, almost certainly happened.... how much Barry may have needed them? Remains speculative, really, but Barry almost certainly wasn't out of short trousers at the time. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Posted: 09:59 - 06 May 2019 Post subject: |
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After trying on 6, I went for the AGV K-5. They did have a Rossi one, but I like matt black, if I can't get dayglo
https://i.postimg.cc/DyD4d0x7/agv-huh.jpg
Have to weigh it....
1420g - not that light, but a darn sight lighter than my flip-ups.
It also has a very good visor, very thick and aerodynamically shaped (pointy at the lower centre).
At first I thought it had too much space around the ears, but it turns out there are a pair of pad inserts in the box that you can fit after purchase (and a gauze filter for the ventilation hole) so all very comfy.
https://i.postimg.cc/K8Mk9bWB/agv.jpg
£260 with 2 year AGV warranty included
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I bought a full face Viper carbon fibre lid from the NEC last year, move and light, and comfortable too, but surprisingly not much lighter than the cheap Box helmet I have. ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Posted: 14:43 - 06 May 2019 Post subject: |
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I just bought a Biltwell Lane Splitter in matte titanium to add to my lid collection, with a silver mirrored visor.
It's a no frills lid so relatively lightweight. I'll have to weigh all four of mine and see whats what. I'd be interested
to see if it's lighter on the scales than my Shark Spartan Carbon is.
https://www.revzilla.com/product_images/0220/1183/biltwell_lane_splitter_helmet_750x750.jpg ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Posted: 21:46 - 13 May 2019 Post subject: |
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Haven't weighed them yet but have been out in this a couple of times now so can review it a bit better.
Wide aperture, I have almost open face lid levels of peripheral vision. Visor is good quality and hasn't steamed
up, the level of tint is decent and there's room for shades if you need more tint. Airflow to mouth is tremendous.
Inner liner looks okay, the padding inside my other lids is more plush but each of those were at least £100 over the
price of this. You can buy spares easily enough for it though including a new liner. Visors are £30-40 there's a range
of about 9 different colours available. Simple visor catch system which I've already become quite fond of. One of my
favourite features is the strap snap for the extra bit of hanging chinstrap. Great idea. All the aggressive looks
of the Simpson lids, but £100 less. I like it.
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Posted: 20:16 - 02 Jun 2019 Post subject: |
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Well I said I'd leave it till after getting my licence but I tried on like every helmet in J&S today...
Turns out I have a fat head!
After losing the will to live on the full face helmets I tried on this:
https://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/buy/frank-thomas-ftdv31-open-face-helmet-matt-black/38318.htm
And, in XL, it fits 100% perfectly!!!
Seriously though, all the full face helmets needed ear-removal to get on but then fitted or were easy to get on but my noggin felt like a ball bearing ratting in a cup
After a forced non-vegan diet of bugs over the last few days I really didn't want another open face helmet so this one is a nice compromise.
Top marks for the guys & gals at J&S for their patience! ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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I just spaffed my wad over this one. Right up my street!! Wish I'd seen it sooner. Oh well, next years lid then. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Was it Marushin or similar who popped up a few years ago with similarly eye catching designs?
I lumped for a Viper RS1010 at the NEC, nice and light, only worn it a handful of times though been using my Box lid instead for the trip to work etc. ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Amazing design... Beautiful balance of colours and form. Some thought has gone into that. |
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Been out riding all evening with the new helmet. Much better fit = not feeling like a bobble head toy Also feels a bit lighter than my old helmet ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Bit late to the party, but when I first saw this thread I'd only just been spammed on farcebuke by adverts for these. Couldn't find it at the time, but it reappeared today - low profile helmets with a smaller shell to cut down on the bobble head look :-
https://www.fat-skeleton.co.uk/collections/daytona-open-face ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 324 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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