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PostPosted: 14:45 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Persecution of Christians approaching "Genocide" Reply with quote
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48146305

Tempted to get baptised now so I can play the "religious victim" card along with my race one Smile
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Surprised they used that word. When they do something bad they're Christians. When they get bombed they're 'Easter Worshipers'.
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Religion is aids
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Are you starting another anti-Muslim thread here?
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why anti-Muslim?
No one mentioned that religion.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Why anti-Muslim?
No one mentioned that religion.

I only asked a question. Perhaps the OP will answer, since I asked him.
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd love to know what other anti-muslim threads I've started Razz

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Ah, you mean another along on the forum, not me personally, my apologies. But no... nothing specific but it is an article that officially confirms the persecution that <cough> certain groups (politically not religiously) have written off as bollox.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm a W.H.A.S.P. and feel VERY persecuted.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Skudd wrote:
I'm a W.H.A.S.P. and feel VERY persecuted.


I must be having a moment, remind me what that stands for again?
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ah, you mean another along on the forum, not me personally, my apologies. But no... nothing specific but it is an article that officially confirms the persecution that <cough> certain groups (politically not religiously) have written off as bollox.


Yes, that's what I meant. You're likely to attract unwholesome attention, you see, along the lines of what I meant; not a personal attack.

It's unfortunate that yes, it does seem bad at the moment. China (although they persecute any religion, AFAIK), the Middle East, Africa. Generally it seems frequently tied to education and culture, but not always. Look at Syria, re Christianity, as it was before 2011, when the bottle was uncorked and the extremists let out, and now. Their new constitution (2012) guarantees the rights of all religions, and shares that (in articles 3 and 33) with the previous one. Of course, the primitive nature of some segments of the global population does promote internecine conflict

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PostPosted: 21:25 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, I read somewhere that China are using the threat of CCTV and facial recognition to "geofence" entire village populations. And I don't think they're worried about the 100%-wrong hit rate that the Met Police were getting with facial-rec Sad

It's at these moments I used to link the Black Eyed Peas "Where is the love?" but now I go with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl3QoD6wiDI
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
HardlyDavidson wrote:
It's at these moments I used to link the Black Eyed Peas "Where is the love?" but now I go with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl3QoD6wiDI


That would've been done well by a '70s punk band.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 03 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
HardlyDavidson wrote:
Skudd wrote:
I'm a W.H.A.S.P. and feel VERY persecuted.


I must be having a moment, remind me what that stands for again?


White Heterosexual Anglo Saxon Protestant.
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No wonder you're having such a hard time! Glad I only get -2 virtue points from that list Smile
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 04 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
To be fair EVERY religion, should be persecuted. Nothing good comes of religion.
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linuxyeti wrote:
To be fair EVERY religion, should be persecuted. Nothing good comes of religion.


Forget God, religions were invented as a means of social organisation and health and safety.

Basics
Don't kill, obvious
Don't sleep around stops STDs
Honor mum and dad. look after the old and if you are a kid do as you are told and keep in line.
Don't steal, really obvious.

Then you have the things like the jewish little hat thing, came from needing to wear a proper hat in the sun.
Only eat with one hand and use the other hand to wipe your arse, stops infection when sanitation isn't around
Not eating certain foods, can't store them long enough and they give you food poisoning.
Day of rest, we all like a day off.

These basics can be the foundation for any religion, the rest is just to enforce the rules via a third party, remember your Mum saying I'll tell your Dad? Or if you are good you can have some sweets? Same thing. The rest is just fll in and the politics crap that cause the wars.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 05 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
linuxyeti wrote:
To be fair EVERY religion, should be persecuted. Nothing good comes of religion.


You realise that in the olden days education was by monks and the church, that's how people learnt to read?
Your comment seems to come from a dislike of religion and not historical reality. Western society is a product of Christian morals.
That aside though, yeah, what have the Romans ever done for us? Wink
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That aside though, yeah, what have the Romans ever done for us? Wink



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jnw010 wrote:
linuxyeti wrote:
To be fair EVERY religion, should be persecuted. Nothing good comes of religion.


You realise that in the olden days education was by monks and the church, that's how people learnt to read?
Your comment seems to come from a dislike of religion and not historical reality. Western society is a product of Christian morals.
That aside though, yeah, what have the Romans ever done for us? Wink


Yes 'educated at the extortionate cost of indoctrinated madness.
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Yes 'educated at the extortionate cost of indoctrinated madness.


I disagree that core Christian values are madness, and I disagree with ignoring history because it doesn't fit a narrative.
I guess for some people to admit that religion had a positive impact in the past is to allow the idea that religion could have some positive aspects in the current. And ideas are bad.
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Historically Christianity became very corrupt which is why Luther nailed his list of 95 f*ck ups to the cathedral door.
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 08 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
jnw010 wrote:
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Yes 'educated at the extortionate cost of indoctrinated madness.


I disagree that core Christian values are madness, and I disagree with ignoring history because it doesn't fit a narrative.


Core christian values aren't madness, they are common sense in a polite society.

What is madness is the idea that the slightest breach, even in thought, will lead to a life of purgatory.

That is about control, with the educated enforcing their beliefs (putting the fear of god) on the uneducated, mainly by limiting education to what the high ups allow you to know.

Fortunately, we now live in more enlightened times, where people can be educated by other than the religious.
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Shaft wrote:
Core christian values aren't madness, they are common sense in a polite society.

They're common sense in a Christian society. Politeness is simply adherence to the social etiquette in place.

Shaft wrote:
What is madness is the idea that the slightest breach, even in thought, will lead to a life of purgatory.


You've never heard of the act of confession? It's where you talk through the things you've done wrong, accept that you're in the wrong and commit to moving on from those things and trying to be a better person. Confession is all about self reflection and holding yourself up to better ideals. At it's very core Christianity accepts that we aren't and will never be perfect. It isn't about retribution for wrong doing either. We can't become better people until we move on from our mistakes.

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That is about control, with the educated enforcing their beliefs (putting the fear of god) on the uneducated, mainly by limiting education to what the high ups allow you to know.


Christianity is really about controlling yourself (judge not others) by adhering to a set of rules that are actually intended to enable you to live a better life, and by that I mean a more personally fulfilled life.
Note, I'm referring to Christianity and not the Church. The church is a useful vessel for worship (reminding yourself of the values) but it is as flawed as every other large organisation.

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Fortunately, we now live in more enlightened times, where people can be educated by other than the religious..


Some of us live in more enlightened times. I think the assumption that we are all intelligent and fair thinking individuals is a stretch. There are plenty of immoral people out there, just as there has always been.
Christianity is in a broad sense the belief that there is more to life than immediate personal gratification. That there is a higher ideal to aspire to.

A lot people see religion as a set of rules and being told what to do, to which the natural reaction is "I won't be told what to do!". Consequently they never get as far as understanding what the rules can teach us about life and be of benefit.
Society has changed a hell of a lot in the last 50 years and the church's way of delivering Christian teachings has fallen behind (reflected in lower mass attendance). On the one hand the church has remained stable in a changing world, but it's also not reaching people.
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Historically Christianity became very corrupt which is why Luther nailed his list of 95 f*ck ups to the cathedral door.


I agree with this, but went back to being Catholic because they see the pope as the head of the church.
C of E see the Monarch as the head of the church, which is fine with the Queen.
Unfortunately when she pops it, the head of the church will pass to someone who was heard on the phone saying he wanted to be Camilla Parker Bowles' tampon.
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