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flearider
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 10 May 2019    Post subject: gsx 125 s .. may have a problem .. Reply with quote

ok so on my little bike ..
the rad and pipes are cold yet the engine is screeming hot .. too hot to touch .
fuel is not lasting as long
I'm starting to go thru a lot of oil 200ml added for last 2 weeks .

would I be right in saying it might have a problem with water pump ?
did a oil change last week ,filter as well ,new spark plug
checked air filter ..
also top speed is down .. unless it's the wind ..Razz

the bikes a yr old been ran in by me . had it's first service by garage ..
it's on 3666 miles
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 10 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I've only had such similar symptoms on a car and then it was either a) a faulty thermostat, b) an airlock in the system, c) a newer car that requires a pressurised water system or d) a system that has specific air-bleed points.

It's only a tiddler so I doubt options c or d apply Smile

The other things: lack of speed, going through oil, low fuel economy would (hopefully) be explained by the engine running hotter than designed.

I don't know what sort of warranty it has but if you can you'd want to throw it back to the service garage and/or original dealer as it's not the sort of fault one would expect on a low mileage bike.

If you have to tackle it yourself I'd be examining the oil for water contamination (mayonnaise) which would suggest a gasket failure and then check over the rad, pipes, pump and thermostat.

I wouldn't be riding it either to prevent any more damage to the engine.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 10 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to dealer....?
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 10 May 2019    Post subject: Re: gsx 125 s .. may have a problem .. Reply with quote

flearider wrote:
the rad and pipes are cold yet the engine is screeming hot .. too hot to touch . fuel is not lasting as long
I'm starting to go thru a lot of oil 200ml added for last 2 weeks.

Riding it in that condition was a bad plan. What caused the problem (loss of coolant, air lock, water pump failure, thermostat failure, who knows) is probably small in comparison to the problems now (possible siezure/smearing/bore/piston/rings, who knows).

Take it apart and look at it, I think. Sorry.

Edit: As Paddy said.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 11 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah my thoughts .. well it's in the garage and an email has been sent ..
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 11 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably the thermostat and it's relatively easy to check (take it out, see if the problem goes away) but if it's still under warrenty...
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 11 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

they got back to me today .. wont supply a cover bike ..
and have to send it back thru rac recovery .. got that with the bike for a yr .
so have to contact them to sort it ?
so pissed off work split shifts so that's 4x bus fares till I get it back
will not be buying another from them
anyone know how I can contact Suzuki direct ?
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 11 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

flearider wrote:
they got back to me today .. wont supply a cover bike ..
and have to send it back thru rac recovery .. got that with the bike for a yr .
so have to contact them to sort it ?
so pissed off work split shifts so that's 4x bus fares till I get it back
will not be buying another from them
anyone know how I can contact Suzuki direct ?


Don't piss *them* off if you can help it until they've fixed it.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 11 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's normal. You bought a learner 125, do you have a full licence? They probably won't give you a hire bike... insurance would be shit.

But it would be something I expect them to look at and resolve, you just gotta wait. Could have bought a year old bike with those issues ironed out on a bike thats not £4k... Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 11 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
That's normal. You bought a learner 125, do you have a full licence? They probably won't give you a hire bike... insurance would be shit.

But it would be something I expect them to look at and resolve, you just gotta wait. Could have bought a year old bike with those issues ironed out on a bike thats not £4k... Thumbs Up

IT WAS NO WHERE NEAR 4K ...
with trade in on a 3 yr old bike just over 2k
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 12 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calm your fanny. Dealer fixes, you get sorted bike.

It's a bike that's up for nearly 4k. It's a 4k bike.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 12 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The amount you pwod, plus the value of the bike you p/xed comes to 4 grand.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 12 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The amount you pwod, plus the value of the bike you p/xed comes to 4 grand.

lol no really it does not ..
px 3 yr old cbr £800
that came off the 2200 I paid for bike ..
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 12 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's about 4k new.

A 3 year old CBR will be over 2k to them all day long, it looks like they are doing you a favour but they aren't Laughing

But yeah, still 4k. Still learner bike, still their problem and you just have to wait.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 12 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

flearider wrote:
that came off the 2200 I paid for bike ..

They sold you a £3,699 bike for £2,200?
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 12 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
flearider wrote:
that came off the 2200 I paid for bike ..

They sold you a £3,699 bike for £2,200?

no at the time it was on offer for £2500 when it first came out ..£500 off
my daughter was in the trade and made a few phone calls .. hence £2200.. now take the £800 off for my trade in ..
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 12 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

flearider wrote:
no at the time it was on offer for £2500 when it first came out ..£500 off


2.5k.

Are you on crack. It might have been up for 3.5k... never 2.5k.

However, ignoring your autism, its a 4k bike. ALL the points I made remain.

Dealer can/will try to fix, you just wait.
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 14 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

aa is coming to "to try and fix" then on to wigan Suzuki
ahh well hope they sort it with the over heating there will be lots wrong with it ..
rings seals so much more ..
seems it could be another case for the cab ..
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PostPosted: 06:31 - 14 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

flearider wrote:
aa is coming to "to try and fix" then on to wigan Suzuki
ahh well hope they sort it with the over heating there will be lots wrong with it ..
rings seals so much more ..
seems it could be another case for the cab ..


Could be wrecked. Could be fine.

Likelihood is that it's just fucked thermostat.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 14 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

flearider wrote:
aa is coming to "to try and fix" then on to wigan Suzuki


AA : "Well, I checked the coolant. Don't know nuffink about bikes though."
Wigan Suzuki : "Oh sorry sir, it looks like someone's had a bash at trying to fix this, it's no longer covered by warranty. Would you like the standard reaming, or would you like to pay extra for some lube?"
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 14 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
flearider wrote:
aa is coming to "to try and fix" then on to wigan Suzuki


AA : "Well, I checked the coolant. Don't know nuffink about bikes though."
Wigan Suzuki : "Oh sorry sir, it looks like someone's had a bash at trying to fix this, it's no longer covered by warranty. Would you like the standard reaming, or would you like to pay extra for some lube?"

it's covered under Suzuki call out ?
Suzuki assistance .. forgot I had it when I called Suzuki they gave me the number ..
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 14 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The AA always try to fix before recovering a vehicle but rather than getting spanners out to investigate, they're checking that it's nothing obvious or the owner doing something monumentally stupid.

It doesn't matter if you've told the call centre person that the engine has seized or anything else that the AA bod really isn't going to be fixing at the roadside, they still send someone to try and fix it before recovering it. They turn up, you say what you've said in your first post in this thread and that will pretty much tick the box for them trying to fix it.
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 14 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
The AA always try to fix before recovering a vehicle but rather than getting spanners out to investigate, they're checking that it's nothing obvious or the owner doing something monumentally stupid.

It doesn't matter if you've told the call centre person that the engine has seized or anything else that the AA bod really isn't going to be fixing at the roadside, they still send someone to try and fix it before recovering it. They turn up, you say what you've said in your first post in this thread and that will pretty much tick the box for them trying to fix it.


yep your right just been took a look and shook his head ..
recovery will be here in next 2 hrs .. great day off Sad
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 14 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 hours ago, flearider wrote:
recovery will be here in next 2 hrs

Still waiting?
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 14 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be polite but firm with the dealer; being angry or annoying will only make them less inclined to help you out. I suspect they could technically throw it back at you for riding it knowing there was a problem with it, but if you treat them right you might find a bit of leniency and they might go a bit further for you.

FWIW, I have a full licence and my local (not a Suzuki) dealer wanted to charge me £30 a day for a courtesy bike following a safety recall - no thanks! If you're running on just a CBT I'm not surprised they won't offer you anything
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