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PostPosted: 14:38 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

£149,363 of £150,000 goal
Raised by 9,561 people in 2 days

"Throughout the campaign I have increased the target of the funds and I will continue to do so"

https://www.gofundme.com/jamal-from-huddersfield-bullied-at-school
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't most of these crowdfunding things turn out to be BS? Remember the hero homeless guy in the Manchester arena bombing who it turned out was robbing the victims.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, that bit isn't dodgy since what he and his relevant guardians choose to spend the money on doesn't matter. People have donated to "ease their situation and hopefully they can use the funds to help improve their quality of life and to put a smile on their faces" so they can do whatever they want with it.

inb4 mortgage fraud by Yaxley-Lenonn gets mentioned. Wink


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PostPosted: 15:00 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't care. Libertardian bullshit. Nobody gave a flying fuck when I had a tooth rearranged by the school hardnut and it's taught me a lesson I think everyone should learn. Learn to look after yourself.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:
"Refugees only may apply", you need the race angle to bring in the monies. Kids get pushed over at school every day, but this family who fled war torn Syria almost 10 years ago are...

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"Jamal's family are refugees in the UK and they struggle to meet the basic necessities of life.


Aren't a lot of families struggling to even afford heating though?

But I guess those poor refugees need help more than those inconsiderate single parents, homeless people, low income families.... basically anyone who doesn't abuse the system and get shafted for it.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

"With your help, we want to fly Jamal and his family to California to spend at least one week with us (maybe more) at Gracie University , so we can teach him self-defense and build his confidence through jiu-jitsu."

$10,628 of $15,000 goal
Raised by 405 people in 15 hours

https://www.gofundme.com/jiujitsu-for-jamal
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
"With your help, we want to fly Jamal and his family to California to spend at least one week with us (maybe more) at Gracie University , so we can teach him self-defense and build his confidence through jiu-jitsu."

$10,628 of $15,000 goal
Raised by 405 people in 15 hours

https://www.gofundme.com/jiujitsu-for-jamal

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PostPosted: 16:55 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:

I wonder if the authorities would dare allow the media to mention it, should it be proved to be true?


How would they prevent it, unless it came to trial?

Sounds like he got less than he deserved to be fair Beating a girl up deserves more than a shove and splash. I'd be surprised if the money ends up with the family though, sounds pretty dodgy. If it does they're laughing all the way to the bank until their Benefits get cut off because they can support themselves now. unless of course they don't inform of their newly aquired wealth " we didn't know we had too, English very poor"

Maybe he'll get a Visit with Obama like that kid who concocted the Bomb outrage with his home made "clock".
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they put the money in a trust fund then their benefits won't be cut off.
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeywrencher wrote:
mpd72 CPT wrote:
I wonder if the authorities would dare allow the media to mention it, should it be proved to be true?

How would they prevent it, unless it came to trial?


Because it's THEM!!!! You know, THEM, from THERE!!!!

(Snort!)
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
If they put the money in a trust fund then their benefits won't be cut off.


If the money was put in trust for the Child by someone else I can see it working, if it's given to the family (what they say is happening) if they put it into trust they'll be told they deprived themselves of the capital and lose their benefits.
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not certain about that.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/365782/hbgm-bw1-assessment-of-capital.pdf

See "W1.180 Capital assets disregarded in full", I'm trying to find something which answers whether voluntary payments put into trust funds are counted as capital.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeywrencher wrote:
mpd72 CPT wrote:

I wonder if the authorities would dare allow the media to mention it, should it be proved to be true?


How would they prevent it, unless it came to trial?

Sounds like he got less than he deserved to be fair Beating a girl up deserves more than a shove and splash. I'd be surprised if the money ends up with the family though, sounds pretty dodgy. If it does they're laughing all the way to the bank until their Benefits get cut off because they can support themselves now. unless of course they don't inform of their newly aquired wealth " we didn't know we had too, English very poor"

Maybe he'll get a Visit with Obama like that kid who concocted the Bomb outrage with his home made "clock".


It’s not true.
Tommy ten names has pulled all his stuff from the web, admitted it’s bullshit.

Even the photo of the lad in Surrey that managed to go to and beaten up by Muslims at the same school as Jamal, before popping back down south for hospital treatment.
It’s almost like it’s totally made up.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Items to be disregarded
W2.530 Certain items of a claimant’s other income should be disregarded in whole or in part for the
purposes of calculating benefit.
HB Sch 5; CTB Sch 4
Items to be wholly disregarded
W2.531 A full list of items to be wholly disregarded is shown at Annex B to this chapter.
W2.532 Charitable and voluntary payments are fully disregarded.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/236962/hbgm-bw2-assessment-of-income.pdf
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:


It’s not true.
Tommy ten names has pulled all his stuff from the web, admitted it’s bullshit.

Even the photo of the lad in Surrey that managed to go to and beaten up by Muslims at the same school as Jamal, before popping back down south for hospital treatment.
It’s almost like it’s totally made up.


The OP failbook video is still up, talking about another boy that got beaten up that was fake.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Items to be disregarded
W2.530 Certain items of a claimant’s other income should be disregarded in whole or in part for the
purposes of calculating benefit.
HB Sch 5; CTB Sch 4
Items to be wholly disregarded
W2.531 A full list of items to be wholly disregarded is shown at Annex B to this chapter.
W2.532 Charitable and voluntary payments are fully disregarded.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/236962/hbgm-bw2-assessment-of-income.pdf



Yes they may not count the 150k as income but once it's in your bank they'll say it's savings and put them down for abot 2000 a month income.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need to find something saying whether or not capital from voluntary payments is disregarded.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 30 Nov 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

They may not be that specific, they might not differentiate it by where it comes from at all, only that you have it.
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