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Sister Sledge
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PostPosted: 07:01 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevo as b4 wrote:
Let's be honest it's much more common and more populist and almost comforting to be part of the labelled community or let's be callous (some form of nutter) in these times.

A label is an excuse, a get out of jail card (sometimes literally) a badge or club to belong to, and a way to fit into broken society better.

My personal view is that other than for people that have done stuff like served for the country or are front line emergency services, that we should offer fuck all support for marginal mentals and snowflakes etc. We can't afford social services care anymore anyway according to the press and government.

My view is that you look after yourself in this world by and large, or you die trying. Im not for trying to create an elitist mater race to conquer all others, but saying to a few very troubled persistent self harmers or ones with long term suicidal tendencies, there there it's OK we'll wrap you up for years and try to make you normal or repress your inner minds suicidal desires isn't much help.

If you've spent 10years unhappy and battling with throwing yourself under a bus or into the sea, it might be better off saying "go on lad get on with it, you'll feel better and at peace if you hurry up and don't prolong the inevitable".


I agree but disagree.
I'd like to think that victims of childhood abuse should get help too. No not the ones whose dad shouted if they annoyed him but those who suffered real hardship and real punishment and especially rape and other sexual abuses.
My reason being that childrens minds develop and this stuff sinks into their minds deeply. Add to that the length of time abuse can happen and the fact that children are often too scared to talk or simply cannot escape then they're left with some deep-rooted hard to treat stuff.
Yes I'm one of those. Into my 50s now and still not fixed. Medical teams call me a survivor but I'm not. I'm a victim because it's still affecting me.
Try Wiki for C-PTSD and it gives a good insight into causes and effects.
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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
stevo as b4 wrote:
Let's be honest it's much more common and more populist and almost comforting to be part of the labelled community or let's be callous (some form of nutter) in these times.

A label is an excuse, a get out of jail card (sometimes literally) a badge or club to belong to, and a way to fit into broken society better.

My personal view is that other than for people that have done stuff like served for the country or are front line emergency services, that we should offer fuck all support for marginal mentals and snowflakes etc. We can't afford social services care anymore anyway according to the press and government.

My view is that you look after yourself in this world by and large, or you die trying. Im not for trying to create an elitist mater race to conquer all others, but saying to a few very troubled persistent self harmers or ones with long term suicidal tendencies, there there it's OK we'll wrap you up for years and try to make you normal or repress your inner minds suicidal desires isn't much help.

If you've spent 10years unhappy and battling with throwing yourself under a bus or into the sea, it might be better off saying "go on lad get on with it, you'll feel better and at peace if you hurry up and don't prolong the inevitable".


This has to be the single most ignorant and stupid post I've ever seen on this forum.
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bhinso
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
To be honest, for a second I thought Stalin had been brought back to life.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 19 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, and while we're at it let's go back to duelling with swords to sort out our differences Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
HardlyDavidson wrote:
Yes, and while we're at it let's go back to duelling with swords to sort out our differences Rolling Eyes


Or pork Sausages. https://www.neatorama.com/2014/11/06/The-Great-Sausage-Duel-of-1865/
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bhinso
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
stevo as b4 wrote:
Let's be honest it's much more common and more populist and almost comforting to be part of the labelled community or let's be callous (some form of nutter) in these times.

A label is an excuse, a get out of jail card (sometimes literally) a badge or club to belong to, and a way to fit into broken society better.

My personal view is that other than for people that have done stuff like served for the country or are front line emergency services, that we should offer fuck all support for marginal mentals and snowflakes etc. We can't afford social services care anymore anyway according to the press and government.

My view is that you look after yourself in this world by and large, or you die trying. Im not for trying to create an elitist mater race to conquer all others, but saying to a few very troubled persistent self harmers or ones with long term suicidal tendencies, there there it's OK we'll wrap you up for years and try to make you normal or repress your inner minds suicidal desires isn't much help.

If you've spent 10years unhappy and battling with throwing yourself under a bus or into the sea, it might be better off saying "go on lad get on with it, you'll feel better and at peace if you hurry up and don't prolong the inevitable".


This has to be the single most ignorant and stupid post I've ever seen on this forum.


Completely agree. I just hope Stevo as b4, or any of his family never suffers from mental deficiencies, otherwise he'd no doubt just say "go on lad get on with it, you'll feel better and at peace if you hurry up and don't prolong the inevitable"
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:


This has to be the single most ignorant and stupid post I've ever seen on this forum.


It's true though.
People are only interested in providing these services because there's money or some other state benefit in it.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
HardlyDavidson wrote:
Don't forget computer games: all these moped thieves are directly attributable for Grand Theft Auto!

The only scoot in GTA is the Faggio. Laughing
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Ribenapigeon
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 20 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jmoan wrote:


It's true though.
People are only interested in providing these services because there's money or some other state benefit in it.


Are you commentung on the same post Shocked
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stevo as b4
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 21 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not as bad as I sound, but it does seem like there is lots of love and do the right thing/say the right things to not offend any section of society or minority or marginal un-stable in society. Maybe you're all brought up that way, or are all young or just want to be seen as nice heart of gold would do anything for anyone types I dunno really? Maybe in parts of the country you have to be seen to give respect and sympathy to everyone in the community or you'd get lynched?

I think Sister sledge is right about its only right and fair to support and help people with serious mental illness, and the unfortunate and often saddening situations leading to it, such as PTSD and child abuse, or physical, emotional and sex abuse by people in who are in a responsible position of trust and those that exploit the most vulnerable people in society.

But my feelings are more targeted towards fashionable mental health conditions, mild cases and where people use the old "it's not my fault I stole your bike/car or burnt your house down bro, Its cos I've got that ABCD innit".

And finally I do appreciate that people have issues and problems in life and they need help and often really appreciate it. But these people are not the cunts of society that don't want to get help, help themselves or get better. They just want an excuse to be utter scum and get away with lawless thug behaviour.

Mentals? I've been there myself of course I have! My case was work related stress and depression with 14weeks off and the doc putting me on antidepressants for two years. But not a single day went by that I didn't want to get up and go to work and do a really good and hard days work, and feel pride in my work and want to help everyone else with their own job too.
Most good honest people are like that and want to work, not talk about things and sure as hell not bother busy professionals or burden their problems onto others. They like me hate the stigma of mental health and also hate it being a constant and convenient excuse for life's loosers to operate without conscience or giving a fuck.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 21 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
^^^ Good post ^^^
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