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Is it a rough idle? Or a dodgy tachometer?
Bike's 15 years old, and by now likely well past its prime, and spent most of that duration at the tender mercy of know-nuffink-learners... its a wonder it hasn't had the out-put sprocket welded to the shaft.... TBH.... to within four-thou, under water, whilst playing the bag-pipes.... (Sorry, little in-joke and jab at the legend of the bunny-guard)
Is it a cable driven, mechanical tachometer, or an electronic one off the ignition pulses? Go check the book? What? You don't have one!! Well, that's where you aught start!!
If its a mechanically driven cable tach, that sounds pretty normal, they do that with age, and or its the first signs that the cable has about had its day... before spending anything more, 'maybe' just swap the cable and see if telemetry wobble goes away. IF you cant just live with the little tacho-wobble... some bikes don't even have one you know!
If its an electronic, ignition pulse driven tach, they take a signal as in a click count off the pulses on the ignition feed to give indication of how many revs engine spinning. Electrickery then turns that into an output, either on a galvanometer.. ie volt-meter, with a dial behind marked in RPM's rather than Volts... or via a stepper motor that yurns as many degrees as the electrickery tells it. Most likely a galvo type dial, and good odds that any wobble on the needle at low revs is just hum in the works and the return-spring that pulls the needle back to naught, getting a bit old... live with it, or pull it apart and clean it out, and hope that a) you dont loose anything and can put it all back together, or b) the spring, which probably isn't totally broke righyt now, doesn't completely break when you try!
Way to test 'properly' if the idle is fluctuating, is to put a work-shop strobe on the magneto rotor, and look for a timing mark moving back and forth when the light flashes at fixed rate.. some more convoluted electrical test meters have a function for this; but that's how you test the actual idle speed, at the crank.. with another, trusted way of measuring the rpm's, not the rather vague and inaccurate dial on the dash... though you could try another one and see if it still wobbles...
But... if bike is running happily enough, what the rev-counter says makes little odds... like I said, many bikes don't have any, so unless its a real problem... its not a problem! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Teflon-Mike wrote: | Is it a rough idle? Or a dodgy tachometer?
Bike's 15 years old, and by now likely well past its prime, and spent most of that duration at the tender mercy of know-nuffink-learners... its a wonder it hasn't had the out-put sprocket welded to the shaft.... TBH.... to within four-thou, under water, whilst playing the bag-pipes.... (Sorry, little in-joke and jab at the legend of the bunny-guard)
Is it a cable driven, mechanical tachometer, or an electronic one off the ignition pulses? Go check the book? What? You don't have one!! Well, that's where you aught start!!
If its a mechanically driven cable tach, that sounds pretty normal, they do that with age, and or its the first signs that the cable has about had its day... before spending anything more, 'maybe' just swap the cable and see if telemetry wobble goes away. IF you cant just live with the little tacho-wobble... some bikes don't even have one you know!
If its an electronic, ignition pulse driven tach, they take a signal as in a click count off the pulses on the ignition feed to give indication of how many revs engine spinning. Electrickery then turns that into an output, either on a galvanometer.. ie volt-meter, with a dial behind marked in RPM's rather than Volts... or via a stepper motor that yurns as many degrees as the electrickery tells it. Most likely a galvo type dial, and good odds that any wobble on the needle at low revs is just hum in the works and the return-spring that pulls the needle back to naught, getting a bit old... live with it, or pull it apart and clean it out, and hope that a) you dont loose anything and can put it all back together, or b) the spring, which probably isn't totally broke righyt now, doesn't completely break when you try!
Way to test 'properly' if the idle is fluctuating, is to put a work-shop strobe on the magneto rotor, and look for a timing mark moving back and forth when the light flashes at fixed rate.. some more convoluted electrical test meters have a function for this; but that's how you test the actual idle speed, at the crank.. with another, trusted way of measuring the rpm's, not the rather vague and inaccurate dial on the dash... though you could try another one and see if it still wobbles...
But... if bike is running happily enough, what the rev-counter says makes little odds... like I said, many bikes don't have any, so unless its a real problem... its not a problem! |
Thanks for the reply. It's an electronic tachometer.
Was wondering that because I had just recently rebuilt this engine. It had 19k miles, and seems like it was well-looked after. I want it to feel as close to a new one as possible. And it's getting there.
I synced the carbs by hand, as to what had felt "right".
After a bit of fiddling around i had found a sweet spot, between too much air getting in and too little. Those two are just half a turn apart. And as I had mentioned earlier, rpms drop quickly, rise smoothly and are quite stable despite the small fluctuation.
I had set the mixture screw 4 and a half turns out on both of them. Will check if that's too lean or too rich after i'm gonna do some miles. This configuration seems to work quite well for me.
Overall, the only thing that still worries me is camchain tensioner. I don't know if its too tight or too loose. I made it finger-tight, but i am planning to go to a mechanic for him to take a look at it. ____________________ Get off my lawn |
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