The Tyranny of Democracy

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I was watching some Tim Pool and it seems the Democrat states in 'murica are still bent out of shape over Trump winning. So much so that they want to subvert the electoral college system when the next presidential election swings round.

TBH I haven't quite got a handle on the US voting system but part way through Tim explains how a drought occurred in California and in response they had a vote. And the ppl in LA voted that all the water should be sent to the city. The ppl in rural areas were left with nothing.

This reminded me of the Ukrainian famine under the Soviets: all the grain was to be sent to the cities and anyone, anyone caught not handing in all their grain, even some scraps they found in the fields after harvest, were summarily executed. Unless you were a woman trying to feed your starving children, you might get off with just being raped.

Okay, so they're not (yet) executing ppl in California but it's ironic that Democracy and Communism both came up with the same answer: fuck the poor.

At a complete tangent I've always found it odd that, although I spend a good chunk of my life working in Tolworth, I get absolutely no say in how the town is run (e.g. council elections.) Fair enough you might say: it would be impractical to somehow split your vote between you home town and "work town" (and split it again if you changed jobs.) However the company I work for, like many others, does not move around. It is a legal entity subject to various laws, allowed to own property, can be found guilty of various crimes and, most importantly, liable for taxes.

"No taxation without representation!"

But a company has no direct representation (unless its directors and employees all live and work in the same town but even then the interests of the company might not align with its people.) Instead we have systems of tacitly approved corruption like lobbying and cushy directorships for MPs after they leave parliament

But no, only the people get to have a say and if the majority say "lower our council tax but up the business rates" don't go crying when where you live turns into a ghost town as all the businesses up-sticks or go bankrupt.
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What are the dangers of a Napoleonic system?

Does the Chinese system give points to citizens based on loyalty to the regime? Is it something they are adopting from the NK system?
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And my other questions?
C'mon Itchy, I'm actually asking you about China
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In the absence of an Itchy reply*, maybe China is perfect, citizens are already better behaved:

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-system-punishments-and-rewards-explained-2018-4?r=US&IR=T



Anyone got any disputes with their method?


*First rule of the social credit system: you do not talk about the social credit system...?
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"By the will of the people..." a phrase that could be equally attributable to both Communism and Democracy.

But most people are idiots. It all went wrong with universal suffrage
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If it's all so fantastic and based on merit how come China has so many corruption clear outs.

Am I right in saying China still has the death penalty?
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Hilarious all these opinions about China from people who clearly know absolutely nothing about China.

Without a shadow of a doubt, the country has a far more meritocratic and less-corrupt political system than the UK. UK politics is something like:

10% merit
50% networking
40% personality cult

"Democracy"

China is hard tests, low paid work, tough selection and years of service. It's a completely different ball game really.

I've learned a lot about China since arriving here and am definitely weary/jaded about a lot of things. I could write a small book about some of the stuff that is starting to really piss me off. However, absolutely none of it is based on the hysterical bollocks printed in the western media. It really isn't possible to know anything about China until you've been here for yourself.

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Left winger supporting a communist government? What a surprise.
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