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Your money, your choice. Some people just don't get on, nothing unusual in that.
I'm really struggling to see what off-roading techniques can be inhibiting your road riding skills though. If you have that much off-road experience you must have developed decent machine control - taking to the road is a matter of learning and sticking to the rules more than anything plus doing certain things in the right order. What is it you keep doing wrong to set him off? ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Yes, change your school/instructor if not happy.
One thing though, is it the same mistake that sets your instructor off each time? Are you not learning from your mistakes.
I know from training engineer cadets that after the 20th time of telling someone how to do something and they still screw up can try the patience of a saint. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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If your instructor is demonstrating his impatience/exasperation over the radio then yeah find another one because that's unproductive as well as unprofessional. Sound like you'll be well shot of him. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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My instructor was an ex-squaddie too. Initially, this made him seem a lot cooler and fun to be around. He seemed to be full of funny anecdotes and stories, but as time went on, I came to realise that he just had 3 or 4 stories he would recite to whomever would listen. Whatever. I gathered that those stories were important to him but I imagined that they were important only in a sort of haze of reminiscence, not the cornerstone of his sense of self. This belief turned out to be mistaken.
It was absolutely clear right from the start that he was a very good rider and had an unusually in-depth knowledge of traffic laws and the Highway Code. So I stuck with him on my training days and even considered he was a bit "old school", like me, and was just a common sense unPC sort of guy. He would swear a lot, with expletives, when you made a mistake. He absolutely did not have a "teaching" manner, or any training in modern teaching techniques. But he didn't seem evil or ill-intentioned with it.
What turned me against him and highlighted his real motives and his fragile ex-squaddie ego was what happened on the day I passed my Mod 2. I came out of the room after the usual formalities and chat with the examiner. I had a few minors (none on my Mod 1, and 100% on my theory test) and all I cared about was that I had passed. I can't lie - I had been anxious about it.
The ex-squaddie riding instructor wanted to see my test checklist. He saw the minors and went on a rant and rave there and then in the testing centre. While I was extremely happy, I was also shocked that he didn't share any of my enthusiasm nor even said "congratulations" or "well done". He was absolutely full of it. In seconds, I reflected back on all his past habits and behaviour and language. I realised, it was just an old and insecure man who never got over his bully of a father (yes, he shared such stories). I couldn't bear to listen to 10 seconds more of his utter nonsense so I asked him, "how much do I owe you", shoved him his cash and went away before I was tempted to do something silly.
In retrospect, the fault was all my own. I had assumed that ex-squaddie types were gruff but basically men's men, benign and practical and honest. I didn't realise that they were basically broken men who couldn't live in a world in which they respected other people, but had to constantly try to put them down to elevate their extremely minor or mediocre and old achievements in life to some level of distinction. This was an important learning experience for me.
My advice is, never return respect to someone who shows or expresses disrespect to you in any form. If they say you're overreacting and throwing your toys out of the pram, shrug your shoulders and move on. If the world left these deluded heroes-in-their-own-minds behind, join the rest of the world and progress your own life goals your own way. Lots of other bike schools would be happy to get your business.
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Bhud wrote: | My instructor was an ex-squaddie too. Initially, this made him seem a lot cooler and fun to be around. He seemed to be full of funny anecdotes and stories, but as time went on, I came to realise that he just had 3 or 4 stories he would recite to whomever would listen. Whatever. I gathered that those stories were important to him but I imagined that they were important only in a sort of haze of reminiscence, not the cornerstone of his sense of self. This belief turned out to be mistaken.
It was absolutely clear right from the start that he was a very good rider and had an unusually in-depth knowledge of traffic laws and the Highway Code. So I stuck with him on my training days and even considered he was a bit "old school", like me, and was just a common sense unPC sort of guy. He would swear a lot, with expletives, when you made a mistake. He absolutely did not have a "teaching" manner, or any training in modern teaching techniques. But he didn't seem evil or ill-intentioned with it.
What turned me against him and highlighted his real motives and his fragile ex-squaddie ego was what happened on the day I passed my Mod 2. I came out of the room after the usual formalities and chat with the examiner. I had a few minors (none on my Mod 1, and 100% on my theory test) and all I cared about was that I had passed. I can't lie - I had been anxious about it.
The ex-squaddie riding instructor wanted to see my test checklist. He saw the minors and went on a rant and rave there and then in the testing centre. While I was extremely happy, I was also shocked that he didn't share any of my enthusiasm nor even said "congratulations" or "well done". He was absolutely full of it. In seconds, I reflected back on all his past habits and behaviour and language. I realised, it was just an old and insecure man who never got over his bully of a father (yes, he shared such stories). I couldn't bear to listen to 10 seconds more of his utter nonsense so I asked him, "how much do I owe you", shoved him his cash and went away before I was tempted to do something silly.
In retrospect, the fault was all my own. I had assumed that ex-squaddie types were gruff but basically men's men, benign and practical and honest. I didn't realise that they were basically broken men who couldn't live in a world in which they respected other people, but had to constantly try to put them down to elevate their extremely minor or mediocre and old achievements in life to some level of distinction. This was an important learning experience for me.
My advice is, never return respect to someone who shows or expresses disrespect to you in any form. If they say you're overreacting and throwing your toys out of the pram, shrug your shoulders and move on. If the world left these deluded heroes-in-their-own-minds behind, join the rest of the world and progress your own life goals your own way. Lots of other bike schools would be happy to get your business. |
Well said - as interesting as it is insightful. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 304 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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